S.T.S. Peter Forms in Eastern Atlantic??

#1 Postby **wxman57** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:45 am

See for yourselves. Sure looks better than some of the storms the NHC has named this year. It's over warm water and gaining convection near the center. Certainly doesn't look fully cold-core any more. Note that what's left of Odette is visible to the top left of the first image below:

<img src="http://home.houston.rr.com/wx/peter3.gif">

And more zoomed in:
<img src="http://home.houston.rr.com/wx/peter2.gif">

And even more zoomed in:
<img src="http://home.houston.rr.com/wx/peter.gif">

#2 Postby **ncweatherwizard** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:18 am

You know, it has improved its appearance quite well over the past 24 hours as it has raced southward. However, some heavy shear surrounds this little disturbance right now; if it were to make a transition to warm core, it would likely have some trouble. If anything, I would say we could reasonably get a subtropical storm out of this. But will NHC take the initiative (if necessary) to name such a December storm that poses a threat to no one?

#3 Postby **ncweatherwizard** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:21 am

It also has a ST-number 2.5/2.5.

#4 Postby **wxman57** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:17 pm

ncweatherwizard wrote:...... But will NHC take the initiative (if necessary) to name such a December storm that poses a threat to no one?

Ahh, that is the $64,000 question! I'm sure that after the early start in April, that they (like me) would like to now call the season over and not fool with it.

Stormsfury · #5 Postby **Stormsfury** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:27 pm

I ALMOST posted the global model guidance (from the PSU TC Genesis) runs about 3 days ago on this very system ... indeed, many of the globals latched onto the system, but with the storm that buried portions of the Northeast, I was busy elsewhere ...

All I got to say is ... unbelievable and the system out there looks very formidable ... much better than Grace, and Mindy EVER looked ...

Stormsfury · #6 Postby **Stormsfury** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:34 pm

Another (Plain) view of the feature out there, and note the overall circ. is HUGE ... you can actually see the low-level clouds well away from the center as well as convection around the center ...

SF

#7 Postby **cycloneye** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:22 pm

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/browsh.html

Another view of the low from another sat pic.And down below 10n all that convection is a tropical wave but as you can see shear is horrendous down there but for being december the eastern atlantic is alive it is amazing.

#8 Postby **wxman57** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:10 pm

Here's an even broader view of the Atlantic with surface obs/ships plotted:

http://home.houston.rr.com/wx/peter4.gif

#9 Postby **Hurricanehink** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:18 pm

They'd better upgrade it to a Subtropical Storm. That sattelite shot is insane! They did mention it in the Tropical Weather Outlook, but there is some dry air. Still, it is impressive, so with the Invest up, ST Number of 2.5 (TS strength, I think), and the excelent presentation, it certainly is possible. You say they might not upgrade it due to being in the middle of nowhere, but what about Hurricane Lili? It formed way out there, but they upgraded it before it threatened land areas. Well, this season just won't end. Someone should e-mail NHC and say they should upgrade it, I'm serious. At least look at it.

#10 Postby **msbee** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:47 pm

where is it going?

#11 Postby **Hurricanehink** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:42 pm

West-southwest to southwest at like 20 M.P.H. towards the islands, but it will curve northeastward in like 3 days.

S.T.S. Peter Forms in Eastern Atlantic??

S.T.S. Peter Forms in Eastern Atlantic??

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