this winter is going to be mild

mrfreeze · #1 Postby **mrfreeze** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:28 pm

here in the midwest anyway. in fact the worst may already be over. and it isn't even officially winter yet. tomorrow's highs in st.louis are expected to be in the upper fifties. it gets cold or seasonably cold for a few days we may even see a little snow, very little if any accumulation on tuesday night into wenesday morning. after that it moderates back into the mid fifties the following weekend. temps appear as if they may just stay in the upper forties to low fifties into at least the first few days of 2004. a good 10 to 15 degrees above normal.

anybody see a trend here? i sure do. a trend that will last all winter. if we get more than 10'' of snow all winter i'll be shocked. in fact it's not out of the question that we see no more accumalting snow all winter. unlikely yes, but not out of the realm of possibility.

experts that called for a colds and snowy winter here are going to be left with egg on thier faces once again. can anybody say global warming? i sure can but no one else wants to admit it.

let's face it kids the days of the traditional three months of winter are gone for good and have been for at least two decades now. sure we'll see months like dec of 2000. but after december of 2000 we saw only 2.5'' of snow the whole year of 2001. the second least snowiest year ever here.

im no metrologist not by a long shot. i barely graduated high school. but i do pay attention to trends and more often than not i have been right. i will most likely be right again. if im wrong i'll make a post at the end of march apologizing to all here and admit im the biggest jackass ever.

but i see a trend here and i think it's going to last all winter. i hate to say i told you so but i did indeed tell you so.

Valkhorn · #2 Postby **Valkhorn** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:33 pm

Folks like you last winter kept saying that it wouldn't get cold and it did.

Winter doesn't even start for 2 or 3 days and here you are forecasting the 'rest' of it.

For those in the midwest, you are going to see some really cold air in the next two weeks or so.

mrfreeze · #3 Postby **mrfreeze** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:38 pm

Valkhorn wrote:Folks like you last winter kept saying that it wouldn't get cold and it did.

Winter doesn't even start for 2 or 3 days and here you are forecasting the 'rest' of it.

For those in the midwest, you are going to see some really cold air in the next two weeks or so.

i will say this much either im dead on or when im wrong im so far off it ain't funny. im either going to look like a genius or an idiot i didn't give myself much breathing room here.

but i,ve been hearing people say things like we'll have two months of continous snowcover here. c,mon that's plain ridiculous. it's been twenty years at least since that last happened.

Guest · #4 Postby **Guest** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:54 pm

mrfreeze wrote:here in the midwest anyway. in fact the worst may already be over. and it isn't even officially winter yet. tomorrow's highs in st.louis are expected to be in the upper fifties. it gets cold or seasonably cold for a few days we may even see a little snow, very little if any accumulation on tuesday night into wenesday morning. after that it moderates back into the mid fifties the following weekend. temps appear as if they may just stay in the upper forties to low fifties into at least the first few days of 2004. a good 10 to 15 degrees above normal.

anybody see a trend here? i sure do. a trend that will last all winter. if we get more than 10'' of snow all winter i'll be shocked. in fact it's not out of the question that we see no more accumalting snow all winter. unlikely yes, but not out of the realm of possibility.

experts that called for a colds and snowy winter here are going to be left with egg on thier faces once again. can anybody say global warming? i sure can but no one else wants to admit it.

let's face it kids the days of the traditional three months of winter are gone for good and have been for at least two decades now. sure we'll see months like dec of 2000. but after december of 2000 we saw only 2.5'' of snow the whole year of 2001. the second least snowiest year ever here.

im no metrologist not by a long shot. i barely graduated high school. but i do pay attention to trends and more often than not i have been right. i will most likely be right again. if im wrong i'll make a post at the end of march apologizing to all here and admit im the biggest jackass ever.

but i see a trend here and i think it's going to last all winter. i hate to say i told you so but i did indeed tell you so.

EXCUSE ME. First off i will ignore the Global warming crap because QUITE FRANKLY its not a discussion i want in this forum. Can do that in the USA forum if you like. That goes for anyone who wants to add those thoughts on this BS issue.

Secondly how can you even declare winter over and we have not even got into Jan yet? I do take STRONG offense to you saying "I told you so" and its still Dec......I am getting real tired of these BS post like this and others recently in this forum with people saying crap like this with the winter just getting underway today no less. In the future i will delete them because i dont wanna see this weenie crap in this forum.

This is exactly what gets the sh!t flying in here and i dont wanna see it. This is NOT TWC boards! Wanna post crap like this then take it there. Sorry for sounding so rude but with all the bs lately over these kinds of post and the "How much for me" post i have had it with these types of Weenie post that dont belong in this forum.

And like i said you wanna discuss the BS global warming crap then have at it in the USA forum and the same goes for ANYTHING that doesnt have to do with WINTER WEATHER which i have seen posted lately. This also will help to keep our USA forum going strong as well for those that dont deal with the wintery type of weather who would probably love to see discussions that more relate to thier kinda weather and such

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Thanks and like i said im sorry if i sound kinda harsh but gotta put a stop to this before it gets too out of control.

PTrackerLA · #5 Postby **PTrackerLA** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:42 pm

Yeah all these "there will be no winter, it's over" posts are totally BS. It's just people getting bent out of shape because they will have above normal temps for maybe a week. There's no way to predict the rest of winter and JAN 04 is looking like it will be a cold one for the US. When St. Louis is getting a blizzard later in the winter I'll be sure to bump this thread.

Valkhorn · #6 Postby **Valkhorn** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:59 pm

Thanks KoW and PTracker. I applaud your statements.

I think all we have is a first class troll on our hands.

southerngale · #7 Postby **southerngale** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:12 pm

We've had several freezes already in the deep south...all before winter even started! Hmm...a trend maybe?

Frequently, I'm doing my Christmas shopping in shorts and a tank top...lol, but not this year. BRRRR!!!!

chadtm80 · #8 Postby **chadtm80** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:21 pm

EXCUSE ME. First off i will ignore the Global warming crap because QUITE FRANKLY its not a discussion i want in this forum. Can do that in the USA forum if you like. That goes for anyone who wants to add those thoughts on this BS issue.

Or the Global forum

therock1811 · #9 Postby **therock1811** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:30 pm

I agree with all of this chad and King, if you feel like you need to discuss that bull, do it in another forum, I sure don't want to see it...that goes for all the weenie posts...oh and I agree with this too:

Valkhorn wrote:I think all we have is a first class troll on our hands.

PTrackerLA · #10 Postby **PTrackerLA** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:55 pm

Like SG said, we've probably had more freezes so far than average. It's been consistently cool/cold and temps have been dipping to near or below freezing for the past week.

#11 Postby **vbhoutex** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:41 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:Like SG said, we've probably had more freezes so far than average. It's been consistently cool/cold and temps have been dipping to near or below freezing for the past week.

Sure seems like a trend to me!!!! A colder trend which I have noticed all this "winter", which starts tomorrow night by the way. It was 34º at the house today and yesterday. For this time of year that is unusual!!! We have already had 3 freezes, which is 3 more than we had had at this time last year and last winter was colder than we have had in years here in Houston.

Valkhorn · #12 Postby **Valkhorn** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:50 pm

Precisely. In my town of Meridian, MS this month we are 6.4 degrees BELOW average. Jackson is 3.6 below average. Other cities to note and their departures from average temps for December:

Birmingham, AL: -3.5
Memphis, TN: -1.5
Houston, TX: -1.0
Meridian, MS: -6.4
Tuscaloosa, AL: -5.1
Atlanta, GA: -3.6
Charleston, SC: -4.5
St. Louis: +1.0
Kansas City: +1.6
New York, NY: -4.4
Burlington, VT: -6.2

You could go through a lot of cities, but most cities in the SE and the East have been well below average so far this month. The only places in general that have been above average have been in the upper midwest, and even still the departures of 1 or 2 degrees above normal doesn't outweigh the 5 or 6 below normal in many other places.

Lindaloo · #13 Postby **Lindaloo** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:41 pm

Winter over? NOT!! I know this time last year we were all in shorts Christmas shopping. Year before last on Christmas Eve we were running our air conditioners. This year once it got cold it is staying cold!! No breaks this year.

I am also in the Deep South. SG and David know what I am trying to say when I say we have no break between cold blasts.

therock1811 · #14 Postby **therock1811** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:14 pm

You know what? he just went in chat, and he started blasting me...all because I agree with you guys...if you admins want to deal with this...I'll give you a copy of what he said...I may be wrong, but if I'm overreacting you all let me know...

chadtm80 · #15 Postby **chadtm80** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:18 pm

Catch me on aim Rock

mrfreeze · #16 Postby **mrfreeze** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:30 pm

therock1811 wrote:You know what? he just went in chat, and he started blasting me...all because I agree with you guys...if you admins want to deal with this...I'll give you a copy of what he said...I may be wrong, but if I'm overreacting you all let me know...

how exactly did i blast you? show me a copy of it too because i would like to see where i attacked anyone personally. i was not responding to you. someone else who called me a first class troll, not you. unless of course it was you and even if it was i don't recall blasting anyone. of course im getting older now might just be my memory is failing me.

im a little bit upset that i got called a first class troll for expressing my opinion. no matter how idiotic you all here might think it is i believe i should have the right to express it unless it was profanity laced and personally attacked anyone. i don't recall doing either.

Valkhorn · #17 Postby **Valkhorn** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:59 pm

Well Mr. Freeze, you're not expressing opinion as opinion. You are expressing your ideas as facts, when they are not.

I called you a troll because you seem to be deliberately trying to get a rise out of us. You created an account just to post how you thought everything is over and how we should just pack our bags and go home.

Besides, you're only 1 degree above average this month. The month isn't even over. Winter doesn't even start until next week.

Stormsfury · #18 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:10 pm

MrFreeze, making conclusions based on THIS MONTH about winter isn't sound ... I could be saying the exact opposite ... since I'm already well below freezing (normal low is 37º), and expected to drop in the LOW 20's, and this is COASTAL South Carolina ...

And again, variability looks to be the theme of this winter as has already been evidenced in November/December ... and that doesn't look to change ...

http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/ens/ ... ation.html

mrfreeze · #19 Postby **mrfreeze** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:21 pm

Valkhorn wrote:Well Mr. Freeze, you're not expressing opinion as opinion. You are expressing your ideas as facts, when they are not.

I called you a troll because you seem to be deliberately trying to get a rise out of us. You created an account just to post how you thought everything is over and how we should just pack our bags and go home.

Besides, you're only 1 degree above average this month. The month isn't even over. Winter doesn't even start until next week.

unless you live here in missouri i don,t think what i said applies to anywhere else. yes right now it's only 1 degree above but tomorrow is supposed to be a good 15-20 degrees above normal and the next day a good 10-15. the following weekend we are supposed to see temps in the upper forties to low fifties. i would say that's a good 10-15 above normal if not a lttle bit more. that trend from what i heard is supposed to carry through to the end of the month into the next year. so by months end we'll be considerably above normal.

look at the last twenty years in missouri if you can find the numbers somewhere. i wouldn't know where to look but im sure they are available someplace. if you can find them you are almost certain to find out almost everyone of the last twenty winters has averaged above normal temps. here in missouri at least. im willing to bet at least two thirds if not three quarters or better of them. i wouldn't be shocked if it were closer to 80- 90% of them.

Valkhorn · #20 Postby **Valkhorn** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:39 pm

Oh well then if it's true for Missouri then it's true for the rest of the world

*rolls eyes*

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