WWBB No Longer Exists

WEATHER53 · #21 Postby **WEATHER53** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:01 pm

Since you do this for a living and therfore know whereof you speak, what is preventing WWBB from using someone who "does this for a living" and as such can provide them the hardware such that these outages do not occur over and over and over again. Even when there are just 50 people on there it is often abysmally slow and there was no huge demand caustivie to this most recent outage.

mf_dolphin · #22 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:14 pm

Without knowing their specific environment it's hard to say. Slowness can be caused by either a bandwidth issue or the server itself. The typical outages I've seen on WWBB seem to point to either a Web server issue or a mySQL issue. Without looking at the server logs it's hard to say much more. Hopefully after Mike gets the site moved to it's new environment things will settle down.

OtherHD · #23 Postby **OtherHD** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:19 pm

Winnipesaukee wrote:
wrkh99 wrote:Seems to me like you are still missing the point !

Try spelling it out then.

Just ignore him...he likes to cause trouble.

Guest · #24 Postby **Guest** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:22 pm

Winnipesaukee wrote:
mf_dolphin wrote:
Winnipesaukee wrote:Right now the DNS just doesn't resolve, so something is most likely being moved. Should be noted that WW appears to use a third party DNS service, so it might be them who are having the problems. If the DNS records were updates, it would explain why some people can access it and some can't- the update is not an instant process for everyone.

The only reliable board we could ever use is one meant for heavy use, like an EZboard. This board hasn't even come close to have 200 online uses, let alone 300, so it's reliability is far from proven.

Just for info, S2K is on a semi-dedicated server which should be able to handle literally a thousand users without any performance degredation. The phpBB software we use has a long proven record with sites 10 times as large as we are now so I for one have absolutely no concern about us being able to handle the load. As the IT Manager for a large Internet based healthcare software provider I do have experience with web based applications.

I do hope the WWBB situation gets resolved quickly but until it does everyone is welcome here at S2K.

I hate to be disagreeable, but I must. Even a top of the line dedicated server will have trouble with more than 500 online users, the only sites I know of that push 600+ users use two servers, one for the database and one to serve pages.

And just curious- which company did you get this semi-dedicated server from?

We moved to this server back in September and we haven't lost one minute of down time. I disagree with you on this...But again its your choice.

Patricia

OtherHD · #25 Postby **OtherHD** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:23 pm

I think he means 500 people online at one time, which is something neither us nor WWBB have experienced. :wink:

Winnipesaukee · #26 Postby **Winnipesaukee** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:52 pm

OtherHD wrote:I think he means 500 people online at one time, which is something neither us nor WWBB have experienced.

Yes- I'm talking about simultaneous online forum users, not number of sites on a server. I know you are bound only by resources as to how many sites you can fit on a server and how many people it can handle at one time.

I ran a forum and web cam for a popular motorcycle rally on a dedicated server. Putting up with 513 online forum users ran the server into the ground, and this was 1.7Ghz beast with 1.5 gigs of ram.

mathias1979 · #27 Postby **mathias1979** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:02 pm

I don't understand why everyone from WWBB doesn't just migrate over here. I'm perfectly willing to. This is a great board, and much more reliable. The only thing stopping me from using it on a regular basis is that WWBB is just more active when it's working. It seems everyone would just rather go back and forth between boards then to completely switch over to one that is more reliable.

-Matt

HuffWx · #28 Postby **HuffWx** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:05 pm

Hey 1979,

I have often toyed with that and talked about it with other prominent WWBB members. There is a fear that something would be lost..(members)..or that feeling of ownership. A few us were the pioneers and it would be hard to give that up. (If I move I want land, title and deeds included...)

Huff

mf_dolphin · #29 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:07 pm

OtherHD wrote:I think he means 500 people online at one time, which is something neither us nor WWBB have experienced.

I was as well. :-)

My reference about the number of sites on most hosting company servers was just an attempt to explain why he may have percieved an issue with the number of users. Based on the little bits of information he provided it was more likely a bandwidth issue with 513 users and a web cam than it was an actual issue with the web server. I hardly call a 1.7Ghz machine a "beast" lol

JCT777 · #30 Postby **JCT777** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:08 pm

HuffWx wrote:If I move I want land, title and deeds included.
Huff

I think they could give you the green properties (Pacific, N. Carolina and Pennsylvania Avenues), but they won't hand over Park Place or Boardwalk just yet. :wink:

HuffWx · #31 Postby **HuffWx** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:09 pm

I would take 2 railroads as a promise in earnest..with long term plans for BW and PP!

Huff

mf_dolphin · #32 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:12 pm

I'm not giving up BW and PP to anyone :-)

HuffWx · #33 Postby **HuffWx** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:16 pm

Maybe as acting GM of WWBB we can broker a deal.

2 first round pics in the 2005 draft and TV met to be named later??

Huff

Snow Plow · #34 Postby **Snow Plow** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:48 pm

mf_dolphin wrote:
OtherHD wrote:I think he means 500 people online at one time, which is something neither us nor WWBB have experienced.

I was as well. My reference about the number of sites on most hosting company servers was just an attempt to explain why he may have percieved an issue with the number of users. Based on the little bits of information he provided it was more likely a bandwidth issue with 513 users and a web cam than it was an actual issue with the web server. I hardly call a 1.7Ghz machine a "beast" lol

It was not long ago that a 1.7G 1G+MEM server was a beast. Most of my servers are dual 1.4 with 2g mem. (The price for the second processor was so cheap too)

I do not think the server HDW spec is the primary issue at wwbb. I think there is a combination of issues that all point to software and configuration. I do not think all the failures are from one single recurring problem. I do think MD resolved a few config setting problems. My gut tells me the root is DB access. Not sure if they are running mysql but my experience in hvy traffic is to run the data on a dedicated machine in the same seg as the app/web server. We have had some issues with mysql...not sure of the specifics but mem leaks/cpu locks were mentioned in meetings...not sure if it was msft code or third party...also involved mapi sessions not being released.

I know nothing about BB software vendors. I would think having some host like S2K does would be ideal. It normally eliminates both bandwidth and server issues. So pick your app correctly and the rest is easy.

David · #35 Postby **David** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:14 pm

So I'm lost..... is Wright-Weather just down, or has it left the WWW for awhile?

stormraiser · #36 Postby **stormraiser** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:04 pm

it left the WWW for a while

David · #37 Postby **David** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:06 pm

That's intresting..

stormraiser · #38 Postby **stormraiser** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:22 pm

Not really. They sent the server up with the Spirit Rover, and the blip was from when the Rover landed on the surface of Mars. The delay was because of the distance of the planet from Earth. :lol:

chadtm80 · #39 Postby **chadtm80** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:18 pm

I don't understand why everyone from WWBB doesn't just migrate over here. I'm perfectly willing to. This is a great board, and much more reliable. The only thing stopping me from using it on a regular basis is that WWBB is just more active when it's working. It seems everyone would just rather go back and forth between boards then to completely switch over to one that is more reliable.

This is the thing.. People wont post over here becuase they dont feel that enough people post here.. Well THAT is what the problem is.. lol People have to start posting here more, before others will post here.. Get what im saying?? Everyone just keeps saying well no one posts here (witch by the way is untrue.. lol) But if everyone that says no one posts here, would post occasionaly, then people wouldnt be able to say no one posts here.. lol

FeanÃ¡ro · #40 Postby **FeanÃ¡ro** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:44 pm

People don't like to migrate and I think, from what I've read on WWBB, that people also prefer to have little or no moderation. I think that's part of the problem.

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