First time a poll shows a democrat (Kerry) beating Bush
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mf_dolphin wrote:Campared to the Democrats he hasn't even gotten started.I'm sure once he knows who he's running against the political machine will get rolling:-) GO BUSH!
Maybe comparing Bush to the Dems, he hasn't gotten as into it as they have, but he has been campaigning ever since he took office. It is the way of politics. And he has been really campaigning this past year.
Although I do agree, that it will get alot more aggressive as the months tick away.
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Well, JQ,
Missouri may have "gone for" the winner in times past, but the voters are equally divided between the cities (KC and STL are VERY liberal, and can out-vote the rest of the state) and the remaining 151 counties (who are more conservative, but added together barely make up the same population as STL and KC).
We saw this in 1999, when 151 counties voted FOR a concealed-carry law, but the vote in STL, St. Louis County and KC was just enough to defeat the measure (thanks to a last-ditch effort by Bill and Hillary Clinton, who appeared in STL and KC several times, and the then-Governor Mel Carnahan's cash flow and opposition to the measure).
The only thing anyone will see here in the primaries is the possible Democratic front-runner solidifying his hold on the race. The GOP, with Bush-Cheney as the only candidates on the ballot, won't get much attention in the polls here.
Missouri may have "gone for" the winner in times past, but the voters are equally divided between the cities (KC and STL are VERY liberal, and can out-vote the rest of the state) and the remaining 151 counties (who are more conservative, but added together barely make up the same population as STL and KC).
We saw this in 1999, when 151 counties voted FOR a concealed-carry law, but the vote in STL, St. Louis County and KC was just enough to defeat the measure (thanks to a last-ditch effort by Bill and Hillary Clinton, who appeared in STL and KC several times, and the then-Governor Mel Carnahan's cash flow and opposition to the measure).
The only thing anyone will see here in the primaries is the possible Democratic front-runner solidifying his hold on the race. The GOP, with Bush-Cheney as the only candidates on the ballot, won't get much attention in the polls here.
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blizzard wrote:mf_dolphin wrote:Campared to the Democrats he hasn't even gotten started.I'm sure once he knows who he's running against the political machine will get rolling:-) GO BUSH!
Maybe comparing Bush to the Dems, he hasn't gotten as into it as they have, but he has been campaigning ever since he took office. It is the way of politics. And he has been really campaigning this past year.
Although I do agree, that it will get alot more aggressive as the months tick away.
By your definition all politicians are campaigning all the time. True, but the subject here is the 2004 Presidential campaign. The skirmishes have started but the war hasn't gotten cranked up yet.

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Once again, try to recall the map of 2000; Bush (red) swept the vast majority of the nation (map by counties), but those annoying little blue dots (the megalopolis on the East and West Coasts, isolated big cities) went for Gore.
I'd expect the DNC to mount their strategy the same way this year...get the cities and outer metro areas "out" solidly, and the Dems may win.
I'd expect the DNC to mount their strategy the same way this year...get the cities and outer metro areas "out" solidly, and the Dems may win.
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