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#21 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:39 am

azskyman wrote:Over the years I have been lucky enough to have some gay and lesbian friends in my life. Not surprising, they have been among the most loyal and truthful people Kathy and I have ever known. I count on THEM for support many times when I need it. And they ALWAYS come through.

My sons are both heterosexual, and I'm glad that they are. But had their sexual orientation been different, I would have probably asked myself "why," as if I might have done something wrong. But no more than I do when I confront other aspects of their personalities and beings that don't always make sense to me.

Never, though, would the question of love and support have been part of the equation. They would never have to ask if my love was compromised because they know it would not be.

I suspect that those who would disown their own children simply struggle with their own identity and place in life. Hate and anger is easier to deal with than love, appreciation, and mutual respect.

Finding your place in this world is a tough tough assignment. We all want to make a difference, have real friends, be successful and beautiful, and have all the tools that make us important.

In the end, what makes us important is not our sexuality or opinions, but instead how well we can relate to others....bring the best out in them, no matter who they are.

Without ever expecting a single thing in return.

I would just want my sons to be good people, unselfish people, regardless of their orientation.


And you wanna know why I consider you one of the best persons I've ever met ... and this post is a prime example of the good man that you are ... and I'm honored to know you ...

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#22 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:49 am

sunnyday wrote:I love my kids unconditionally. My love will be contstant, no matter what.
I don't understand how a parent could disown a kid for any reason.


EXACTLY!!!AMEN!!!
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#23 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:22 am

azskyman wrote:Over the years I have been lucky enough to have some gay and lesbian friends in my life. Not surprising, they have been among the most loyal and truthful people Kathy and I have ever known. I count on THEM for support many times when I need it. And they ALWAYS come through.

My sons are both heterosexual, and I'm glad that they are. But had their sexual orientation been different, I would have probably asked myself "why," as if I might have done something wrong. But no more than I do when I confront other aspects of their personalities and beings that don't always make sense to me.

Never, though, would the question of love and support have been part of the equation. They would never have to ask if my love was compromised because they know it would not be.

I suspect that those who would disown their own children simply struggle with their own identity and place in life. Hate and anger is easier to deal with than love, appreciation, and mutual respect.

Finding your place in this world is a tough tough assignment. We all want to make a difference, have real friends, be successful and beautiful, and have all the tools that make us important.

In the end, what makes us important is not our sexuality or opinions, but instead how well we can relate to others....bring the best out in them, no matter who they are.

Without ever expecting a single thing in return.

I would just want my sons to be good people, unselfish people, regardless of their orientation.


What a wonderful way to put it Steve. I agree, I want my girls to be good people, first and foremost. And care about others. If they announced they were gay someday, I'd accept it. And not disown them. Can't imagine my children ever doing anything that would cause me to send them off into the world w/o any contact from me. That is what parents are doing when they disown their own children - just opening that door, shoving them out and saying good-bye. How a person, and I refuse to use that word parent, can do that is beyond me. I've always encouraged my daughters to look back on each day as they say their nightly prayers or fall asleep. Ask themselves if they were kind to others, did they say anything hurtful to another, etc. If they did, apologize the next day and/or fix it. I should add that in Nina's elementary years she was bullied by one girl in particular. And it was a rough few years there. That sure taught us a lesson. Instead of Nina bullying right back, she interalized it. Struggled for a few years there on how to handle it. There was a time in 6th grade a 'slam book' went around the class. It was just a simple notebook but at the top of each page was a kid's name. You were supposed to write a nasty thing about that person and then pass the book on. Two girls got in big trouble for that, and one was Nina's bully. Nina came home from school that day saying - Mom, I know I had a page in that book. So we all discussed this situation at the dinner table. Laura blurted out - ya know what, if that notebook got passed to me, I'd write something nice about each person! And then turn it into the teacher. While we applauded her sweet gesture, we said she shouldn't write anything but still stand up for what's right - turn it in. You can either grow from hurtful things like that or dish it right back. We encourage compassion and understanding in our house. To this day, I often ask about that bully. I pegged her to be on drugs, pregnant, etc. by now. I'm half right. Sure got off track there but Steve that was such a nice post!

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#24 Postby HurricaneGirl » Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:57 am

Since I'll never be a parent I guess I can't really answer truthfully, but having a sibling who is gay and remembering the reaction of my father when he came out of the closet was disturbing to me. Years have passed and my brother and father are now on good terms, but it took a long time for him to accept my brother's way of life. My mom on the other hand, told me she always had a pretty good idea about him and wasn't phased at all.
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#25 Postby Rainband » Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:08 am

steve, Awesome post!!!!! :)
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#26 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:17 am

Now I have to tickle Jason. :wink:
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#27 Postby j » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:24 am

45 and I know with certainty, given a reasonable period of time to adjust, that I would accept the choice my child has made. I never have to like it, but as long as he or she does not intentionally set out to hurt a member of our family (i.e. - pushing an "agenda" down our throats), I will always love them unconditionally.

I'm not sure what it would take to "disown" a child of mine, but I think it would have to be on the magnitude of finding out they have taken a life, molested a child, ...something of that magnitude.
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#28 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:27 am

Bravo j! I must admit when I saw your screen name for the most recent post on this topic, I read it with one eye closed. Holding my breath, thinking - oh here we go now. LOL Mean that in the nicest way possible, ya know. ;-) Like you, my kids would have to commit a most despictable act before I'd ever EVEN consider disowning them.

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#29 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:38 am

Great post, J ...
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#30 Postby j » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:46 am

Miss Mary wrote:Bravo j! I must admit when I saw your screen name for the most recent post on this topic, I read it with one eye closed. Holding my breath, thinking - oh here we go now. LOL Mean that in the nicest way possible, Mary


Now Mary..you know I'm a Compassionate Conservative at heart.

In my eyes, everything changes once it involves a member of your family. For instance: I'm not a violent person and could never imagine killing a human being....but just you try to harm a member of my family, and I will respond appropriately.
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#31 Postby Stephanie » Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:58 am

To tell you the truth, we were alittle concerned when this post first popped up because we have been around the block with this one several times and in some cases they got nasty.

All I have to say is BRAVO!!! Great comments, thoughts (especially from our sage member Steve). j - that was an excellent post as well.
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#32 Postby JCT777 » Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:16 am

Great thread, and great replies by everyone. My wife and I are unlikely to have children (unless we adopt), but I would never think of disowning a child because of their sexual preference.
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#33 Postby bfez1 » Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:26 am

My initial reaction would be shock and devastation but I know the bottom line is that I would love and except my child no matter what. Love is unconditional. And my children are my life.
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#34 Postby stormraiser » Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:31 am

I would agree with Bonnie. I would be devastated and search myself to see where I went wrong, but my children are everything to me. I have an aunt I didn't know existed until one of my uncles died. My other aunt basically kicked her out of the family. I have tried to make contact with her, because ever since I found out about her, something in me wasn't complete. I mean family is family. So I would accept my child's decision and love him or her, but yes it would be hard.
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#35 Postby Skywatch_NC » Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:55 am

I don't have any children either...but if I did...and a son or daughter was gay, at first I would be shocked and devastated but with the Lord's help would come to accept my child's lifestyle choice and continue to love him or her unconditionally. He/she and their partner would always be a part of family get-togethers (birthdays, holidays, etc) and if they'd like...a family vacation.

We love you Jonathan and Shawn and you're an awesome asset here at Storm2K and always will be! :)

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#36 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:20 am

((((((((HUG))))))))) Thank you, Eric. :)

To be quite honest, I don't think it would be as shocking to some of you as you think, unless your child hid it extremely well. The reason why is that I'm sure most of you here are in touch enough with your children's lives that you might at least have some inkling of a clue before they tell you. You might not want to accept the fact that you think that's what it is, and you might not address the issue with them until they decide to say something. But I'm certain that it wouldn't come as a total surprise and, because of that, you would already be coping with it in your heart in some small way before they tell you.

It's almost, but certainly not quite, the same as when someone you love is terminally ill. You know they're going to die and you accept it to a degree because you begin to cope with that fact from the moment you learn they are dying. However, even though you anticipate it, when it happens, it can still be shocking and devastating.

All I can advise for you, as parents, is to be honest from the beginning. Teach what you truly believe. If your child comes and asks you questions about gays, whether it's while you're watching the news and a story about the Massachusetts situation comes up or when you're watching a movie and the subject comes up or if they ask you about something they heard in school or whatever -- tell them what you truly think. One day, it may not necessarily be them telling you that they are gay. But it may be them telling you that their own child (your grandchild) is gay. And what you teach them will help them as parents also.
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#37 Postby stormraiser » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:21 pm

Good advice, Duck. Thanks :)
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#38 Postby azskyman » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:06 pm

We're taking the high road on this discussion. I agree, the responses are heartfelt and strong.

The responses from this question THIS time show the growth and maturity that has taken place since earlier days.

Let's keep it on the high road....and maybe we can have other discussions on topics heretofore better left unsaid.

Thanks to all...
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#39 Postby Stephanie » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:11 pm

azskyman wrote:We're taking the high road on this discussion. I agree, the responses are heartfelt and strong.

The responses from this question THIS time show the growth and maturity that has taken place since earlier days.

Let's keep it on the high road....and maybe we can have other discussions on topics heretofore better left unsaid.

Thanks to all...


AMEN!
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#40 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:39 pm

Stephanie wrote:
azskyman wrote:We're taking the high road on this discussion. I agree, the responses are heartfelt and strong.

The responses from this question THIS time show the growth and maturity that has taken place since earlier days.

Let's keep it on the high road....and maybe we can have other discussions on topics heretofore better left unsaid.

Thanks to all...


AMEN!


AMEN AGAIN!!!

DUCK!!!! We can always count on you to really say it like it is and make us think!!!! THANKS!!!!! {{{{{{BIG HUGS}}}}}}}I'll try not to squish you. :D
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