0z 2/19 (Wed.) GGEM take on the Mid week system.

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0z 2/19 (Wed.) GGEM take on the Mid week system.

#1 Postby Erica » Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:14 pm

Most of the GGEM ensemble members were further north with the Southern branch s/w than the operational GFS, or even the ECMWF.

500mb height 144 hours
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Surface Precipitation/Thickness 144 hours
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First of all, ignore the temperature profiles, and thicknesses they are way too high (GGEM warm bias). Most of the members would also suggest the heaviest precipitation does make it north of Washington DC.

500mb height 168 hours
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Surface Precipitation/Thickness 168 hours
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For those hoping for a significant impact on the major cities, this particular run of the ensembles would at least come close to verifying that for you.

For pretty much everyone from Chicago on east, this is something that you need to keep a close eye on over the next few days. That includes those of you in the Lower Lakes, Ohio valley, Mid Atlantic, Northeast and Southern New England Especially South of Boston.

Tonight's run of the ECMWF did have the phasing needed to develop a major winter storm for the east coast, although, the phasing occurs too late.
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#2 Postby Chris the Weather Man » Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:40 pm

Great Anaysis, Erica. And Yes, Something to Watch........ ( And The March Patten is Crazy)
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#3 Postby DelStormLover » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:03 pm

Erica, are you Related to RNS?
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Re: 0z 2/19 (Wed.) GGEM take on the Mid week system.

#4 Postby donsutherland1 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:12 pm

Great discussion, Erica. Given the ensembles, I don't think anyone in the big cities of the East should automatically dismiss the snowfall potential from next week's midweek system.
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Re: 0z 2/19 (Wed.) GGEM take on the Mid week system.

#5 Postby Chris the Weather Man » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:13 pm

donsutherland1 wrote:Great discussion, Erica. Given the ensembles, I don't think anyone in the big cities of the East should automatically dismiss the snowfall potential from next week's midweek system.


Agreed 100% Don........ I am Looking forward to March as well.... March 1960! :)
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Re: 0z 2/19 (Wed.) GGEM take on the Mid week system.

#6 Postby Erica » Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:18 pm

donsutherland1 wrote:Great discussion, Erica. Given the ensembles, I don't think anyone in the big cities of the East should automatically dismiss the snowfall potential from next week's midweek system.


Thanks, Don. I agree, this shouldin't be dismissed, even by those in far northern New England.

But they will anyway, no matter what we say or the data shows, be it good or bad. :roll:
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#7 Postby Anonymous » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:47 am

00z ggem looks very threatning for DC/BALT/PHILLY and most of the MA
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#8 Postby yoda » Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:40 am

Hey Ji!! Yes, bring it!! BRING THE SNOW!!! I will watch it VERY CLOSELY... Any chance of this becoming a 50/50 low? Also, won't there be a greenland block by this time?
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#9 Postby JCT777 » Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:17 am

Nice discussion, Erica. This is definitely a storm to watch. Hopefully, things still look promising in a few days.
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#10 Postby Stephanie » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:50 pm

Thanks Erica for the maps and your insight to next week!
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#11 Postby Colin » Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:04 pm

LOL...please don't get excited...
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#12 Postby JCT777 » Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:56 pm

Colin - good idea not to get too excited yet. But this is probably the most promising looking winter storm for our area in nearly a month. So it's definitely something to keep on eye on for the next few days, and then we can start honking if the models still have this storm on Monday.
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#13 Postby weatherfan » Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:58 pm

Good post on the next event.Have A question those for you Flguy and Don.How do you guys feel about how March will turn out.Because there has been talk of a cold periold and of course HMs big dog that he has been going on and talking about for months in March.However Now Dt feels that March might be warm.So once again as so many times this year the possableys have look good on paper but when it comes to end times.its always bad timeing.I'm not saying that you guys are wrong.But I have accually brought up this possabley.And I'm not ruleing out cold yet eather.The QBO is changeing westery which to many seems good for a cold and snowey March.But here the cation as I brought up a few weeks ago.

Some anlogs stated that doing winters when the QBO change from east to west Feb-March in winters doing Nurtrul there is a trend toweds early springs.Not all years but some Anlogs did show this.Which is why I repleyd a while back in that Late Febuarey-March was a toss up.I guess what I'm saying is I would have felt more conferdent in it if El nino also had come in. meaning El nino West.But giving we are still nurtrul ENSO.It is a toss up.
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