TERESA HEINZ, KERRY'S WIFE sends thousands of jobs overseas

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TERESA HEINZ, KERRY'S WIFE sends thousands of jobs overseas

#1 Postby rainstorm » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:27 pm

Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004 5:34 p.m. EST
Kerry's Wife a 'Benedict Arnold CEO'?

One of Sen. John Kerry's favorite stump speech tag lines these days is a blast at "Benedict Arnold CEOs [who] send American jobs overseas." But he never gets around to mentioning his wife's Heinz Foods empire, which seems to be leading the pack in exporting jobs from America into the Third World.

Reporting for Tech Central Station, James Glassman revealed Wednesday, "The Kerry family business, H.J. Heinz Co. of Pittsburgh, operates 22 factories in the United States and 57 in foreign countries."

A quick check of the Heinz corporate Web site seems to confirm the fact that the Democratic presidential front-runner is married to one of America's worst corporate traitors, at least according to the way he defines the term.

Under World Locations, Mrs. Heinz Kerry's webmaster lists Heinz plants throughout the Third World, including the Middle East, Africa, Southern Africa, the Pacific Rim and Asia.

Mrs. Heinz Kerry's company seems to particularly favor the employee pool in Asia, where workers come dirt cheap and slave labor is not unknown.

Here are just a few of the locations where Sen. Kerry's corporate bucaneer missus has her Third World workers toiling overtime to keep the prospective first couple living in style:

HEINZ SINGAPORE PTE. LTD.
Established 2001
Republic of Singapore
Factory: Singapore
Major Product Lines: chili sauces/ketchup/preserved beans/soy sauces.
Brand Names and Trademarks: SinSin.


HEINZ-UFE LTD.
Established 1984
Guangzhou, People's Republic of China
Factory: Guangzhou
Major Product Lines: cereals for infants.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.


HEINZ COSCO
Established 1999
Qingdao, People's Republic of China
Factory: Qingdao
Major Product Lines: infant foods/ketchup/mayonnaise/puree.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.


HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD.
Established 1987
Bangkok, Thailand
Factory: Bangplee
Major Product Lines: chili sauce/ketchup/oyster sauce.
Brand Name and Trademark: Heinz.


HEINZ INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED
Acquired 1994
Mumbai, India
Factory: Aligarh/Bangalore
Major Product Lines: glucose powders/infant feeding
products/ketchup/medicated powders/milk-based beverages.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Complan/Farex/Glucon-D/
Heinz/Nycil/Sampriti.


PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA
Established 1999
Jakarta, Indonesia
Factories: Daan Mogot, Jakarta; Karawang Timur; Pasuruan
Major Product Lines: chili sauce/fruit drink concentrates/ ketchup/soy sauces.
Brand Name and Trademark: ABC.


PT HEINZ SUPRAMA
Acquired 1997
Surabaya, Indonesia
Factory: Sidoarjo
Major Product Lines: noodles/noodle snacks.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Burung Dara/Heinz.


HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES
Established 2000
Manila, the Philippines
Factories: Cabuyao Laguna; Davao City
Major Product Lines: banana ketchup/hot sauce/sweet chili sauce/tomato ketchup.
Brand Names and Trademarks: Jufran/Mafran/Papa/UFC.


HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED
Established 2000
Wanchai, Hong Kong
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#2 Postby JQ Public » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:40 pm

???

As you can tell by the products sold in some of the countries. The factories are over there for the consumers in that particular country. We do not get heinz ketchup from china or india or indonesia! The factories for our ketchup are in america. The factories for their condiments, noodles, banana ketchup, chili sauce, soy sauce etc is made in the countries in which they are bought. I think it makes sense to me. I doubt we were making oyster sauce in america to ship to indonesia. Its smart business, b/c they have the resources to market to their consumer base and we don't. Heinz has just found more people to buy their product...they didn't close plants here to make ketchup elsewhere.
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#3 Postby rainstorm » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:46 pm

if you say so, lol!! all she has to do is make the products here, and ship them overseas. and how do you know those products arent shipped here?
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#4 Postby ColdFront77 » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:57 pm

The good 'ol Heinz Ketchup from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. :)
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#5 Postby mf_dolphin » Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:05 pm

I see no problem with companies having overseas operations. If a company is making products for the China market it just makes business sense to do it in China if it's cheaper. The Corporations I have a problem with are the ones that move their corporate HQ off-shore just to avoid taxes. That's a loophole in the law that should be closed ASAP!
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#6 Postby rainstorm » Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:32 pm

john kerry says ceo's that ship jobs overseas are traitors. lets ask this question. do you take advantage of every "loophole" to avoid taxes? of course you do. and remember this. every dollar in tax a business pays just gets passed right on to the consumer. john kerry is a hypocrite. free trade helps the economy.
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#7 Postby mf_dolphin » Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:42 pm

Nothing in the article that you pasted says anything about the jobs being shipped overseas! It says that Heinz has operations overseas... Everyone of the Fortune 500 has international operations so. As much as I dislike Kerry's politics this article is just a political swpie that doesn't address the real issue. IMO The off-shore loopholes I talked about earlier need to be closed and that will end the tax issue. On the overseas jobs, you have to remember that these are businesses. They are in business to make money first and foremaost. The American companies have to compete globally and the American workforce have to prepare ourselves to compete globally as well...
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#8 Postby Stephanie » Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:47 pm

rainstorm wrote:john kerry says ceo's that ship jobs overseas are traitors. lets ask this question. do you take advantage of every "loophole" to avoid taxes? of course you do. and remember this. every dollar in tax a business pays just gets passed right on to the consumer. john kerry is a hypocrite. free trade helps the economy.


So then Helen, what was your point of this thread? Was it a swipe at Kerry because of his politics or that Heinz has operations overseas and the dollars that are saved by the cheaper labor is passed on to the consumer? I'm confused. :-?
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#9 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:12 pm

Another reason not to vote Kerry
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#10 Postby rainstorm » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:17 pm

what it shows is that any politician that calls ceo's
"traitors" is dangerous and simplistic. will john kerry enact a law stating that corporations must keep all jobs within the us borders? the ignorance of that is self evident. it would severely damage the economy, and hurt jobs, not help. one thing i can say for sure. john kerry has not produced a single job in his life, while business owners are the backbone of our economy
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#11 Postby JQ Public » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:56 am

rainstorm wrote:if you say so, lol!! all she has to do is make the products here, and ship them overseas. and how do you know those products arent shipped here?


you can lol me all you want, but the heinz ketchup i got out of the fridge and from my wendy's bag both say they are from PITTSBURGH, PA!!!!!! There is almost no way we would get food in america that is made in other countries without seeing it reflected in the prices some. Why make ketchup in a place that is harder to control with american regulators than in America. Well they don't make american food in those countries. Case closed! Also you should see that the article says nothing about american jobs being taken away. Some more slanderous accusations that have no validity whatsoever! :roll: :roll: :roll:

Then i can say bush is supporting terrorists by getting oil from saudi arabia and iraq instead of in texas?

what it shows is that any politician that calls ceo's
"traitors" is dangerous and simplistic. will john kerry enact a law stating that corporations must keep all jobs within the us borders? the ignorance of that is self evident. it would severely damage the economy, and hurt jobs, not help. one thing i can say for sure. john kerry has not produced a single job in his life, while business owners are the backbone of our economy


As for this. The article was not in any way convaying this view. It just said that Heinz has factories in other countries. Have you ever seen pepsi that is made in india and brought to america? No.
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#12 Postby stormchazer » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:33 am

JQ Public wrote:
rainstorm wrote:if you say so, lol!! all she has to do is make the products here, and ship them overseas. and how do you know those products arent shipped here?


you can lol me all you want, but the heinz ketchup i got out of the fridge and from my wendy's bag both say they are from PITTSBURGH, PA!!!!!! There is almost no way we would get food in america that is made in other countries without seeing it reflected in the prices some. Why make ketchup in a place that is harder to control with american regulators than in America. Well they don't make american food in those countries. Case closed! Also you should see that the article says nothing about american jobs being taken away. Some more slanderous accusations that have no validity whatsoever! :roll: :roll: :roll:

Then i can say bush is supporting terrorists by getting oil from saudi arabia and iraq instead of in texas?

what it shows is that any politician that calls ceo's
"traitors" is dangerous and simplistic. will john kerry enact a law stating that corporations must keep all jobs within the us borders? the ignorance of that is self evident. it would severely damage the economy, and hurt jobs, not help. one thing i can say for sure. john kerry has not produced a single job in his life, while business owners are the backbone of our economy


As for this. The article was not in any way convaying this view. It just said that Heinz has factories in other countries. Have you ever seen pepsi that is made in india and brought to america? No.


The absurdity works both ways. Why pay 3x as much for a call center in the US when you can do it in India and cut cost. No matter how much it cost to do business, its not the company who pays, Its you and me baby! Are you willing to pay $150 for that software, or the current $50.

Oh....and Bush gets oil oversees because the liberal, enviromentalist won't let us get it here. Looked at the gas pumps? Case in point!
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#13 Postby JQ Public » Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:48 pm

The call centers are not in any way related to the heinz factories. The call centers were jobs taken from here and put in india. On the other hand...heinz just put factories in india to relieve the demand from indian consumers :o :o
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#14 Postby stormchazer » Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:06 pm

JQ Public wrote:The call centers are not in any way related to the heinz factories. The call centers were jobs taken from here and put in india. On the other hand...heinz just put factories in india to relieve the demand from indian consumers :o :o


Sure they are! Its about money. You said it. Financially, it makes no sense for Heinz to produce Ketchup here, then ship it overseas. The cost associated is much higher then having the operation overseas. It is the same with call centers, or car manufacturers or chipmakers. The call center jobs were taken from here to India in order to save money, therefore the cost of products is cheaper. If the call center of Geico, for instance, stayed here, the cost of insurance might be much higher. You do business in the most cash effective way or you die in the market.
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#15 Postby JQ Public » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:23 pm

you know what...i think we agree lol!
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#16 Postby rainstorm » Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:04 pm

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU FEB 26, 2004 20:35:09 ET XXXXX

HEINZ BLASTS WAL-MART; OWNS $1 MILLION IN STOCK, PURCHASED BULK IN '02

Teresa Heinz Kerry blasted WAL-MART last week week -- but an investigation reveals she has over $1,000,000 in WAL-MART stock, and purchased a ton of it throughout 2002!

MORE

"Another thing that drives me crazy, and I hope I don't offend anyone here, is WAL-MART," Mrs. Kerry told a group of Democratic women activists at a luncheon in St. Paul last Tuesday. "They destroy communities."

Teresa Heinz Reality:

H.J. Heinz III Marital Trust

Wal-Mart Stores Inc.
Assets: Over $1,000,000
Dividends, Income: $2,501 - $5,000
Transactions:

04/04/02: Purchase: $500,001 - $1,000,000
04/05/02: Purchase: $500,001 - $1,000,000
06/04/02: Purchase: $15,001 - $50,000
06/06/02: Purchase: $50,001 - $100,000
11/13/02: Purchase: $50,001 - $100,000
11/14/02: Purchase: $15,001 - $50,000
11/14/02: Purchase: $15,001 - $50,000


umm, i wonder if walmart sends as many jobs overseas as you, teresa? lol!!
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#17 Postby stormchazer » Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:09 pm

JQ Public wrote:you know what...i think we agree lol!


Now wait a second. I am not sure how to respond to someone who agrees with me. This is unprecedented!! :)
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#18 Postby JQ Public » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:55 am

rainstorm wrote:umm, i wonder if walmart sends as many jobs overseas as you, teresa? lol!!


she is not sending american jobs overseas. Stop posting lies!
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#19 Postby rainstorm » Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:02 am

57 corporate headquarters overseas, even the liberal washington post was amused. lol!!

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The presidential election year hasn't even reached March yet, and Democratic front-runner John Kerry has already set the all-time records for policy flip-flops and fund-raising hypocrisy. In his latest gambit, he has managed to combine the two by accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars raised by the very same tax-dodging "Benedict Arnold CEOs" whom his campaign condemns for "tak[ing] advantage of tax loopholes to set up bank accounts or move jobs abroad simply to avoid taxes." In the political boxing arena, Mr. Kerry can now claim the undisputed titles in two classes: flip-flopping and hypocrisy.
On the policy front, Mr. Kerry spent nearly two decades promoting free trade, and now he is running as an unabashed protectionist. He voted to authorize war in Iraq, and he has now become one of its most strident opponents. He voted for the USA Patriot Act, and now he opposes it. He voted for the No Child Left Behind Act, and now he attacks it.
On the fund-raising front, Mr. Kerry relentlessly claims to be the only four-term U.S. senator who never accepted a single limited, regulated donation from a political action committee (PAC); but in December 2001 he formed his very own PAC, which collected more than $2 million, including nearly $1.5 million in unlimited, unregulated soft money that he lavished upon Democratic parties and officeholders in the early primary states. He has eviscerated lobbyists as "influence peddlers," but he has accepted more political contributions from lobbyists during the past 15 years than any other member of the Senate in that time period.
Mr. Kerry initially embraced the taxpayer-financed matching-funds system for presidential primaries; but after his own fund-raising efforts spiraled downward during each successive quarter last year, he ditched the matching funds and dipped into his personal inheritance in a desperate, wildly successful attempt to resuscitate his flagging campaign.
It now develops that Mr. Kerry's presidential campaign has accepted nearly $150,000 from executives and employees of companies whose jobs or operations were moved overseas by "Benedict Arnold CEOs" in order to avoid paying U.S. taxes.
The Washington Post, which tallied those donations, also reported that Mr. Kerry accepted more than $400,000 in additional contributions bundled together by two "top executives at investment firms that helped set up companies in the world's best-known offshore tax havens." David Roux, who described himself last year as the "anchor tenant in John Kerry's fund-raising mall," has raised more than a quarter-million dollars for Mr. Kerry since 2002.
Four years ago, the company co-founded by Mr. Roux helped purchase Seagate Technology Inc., which was then incorporated in the Cayman Islands. Seagate is listed by the State Department as one of the companies that reincorporated offshore to dodge U.S. taxes. It appears that at least some of those tax savings have now found their way into Mr. Kerry's presidential coffers, helping to finance his campaign of hypocrisy.
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