Another classic WRENCHING Northeastern Virginia Heartbreak

[Anonymous]

This has been happening to NE Virginia all winter. I could see it happening about once or twice and we just take and keep on grinning.

But this winter has been the winter of the near-miss after the near-miss after the near-miss after the near-miss. Suppressed storms and dry air ruled the northern part of Virginia all winter.

Please see this heartbreaking radar.


Look at all the snow in South Carolina, North Carolina and southern Virginia.

This winter we have had SO MANY heartbreaking opportunities for snow in northeastern Virginia where I live, and we have experienced the gut-wrenching heartbreak each time.

I have to say in all fairness, it is getting a little old here. Now I want spring. I want this to be over with. I think I may have an ulcer in my stomach over this dumb winter, and for goodness' sake, it IS nearly March and it IS time for spring to begin.

I have put up with this farce of a winter for three long months. I can not believe that to enjoy winter this particular season, I needed to live in north-central North Carolina!!!!! That is utter madness!!! It makes no sense at all, not even a little bit.

Every single non-rain storm in February has missed us in NE Virginia, some by only scant miles. This one will too.

I think I have had my share of heartbreak this winter, and it has not been fun.

It has been sheer hell.

Winter is a bad word.

I want spring. Those of us in this Infamous Northeastern Virginia Snow Bubble have hereby earned the right to cry about this winter's snowless woes and cry out for spring. We have narrowly missed so many events this season, either from not being in the right place or from dry air, or both.

Please. No more winter. We know snow always misses us.

Enough is enough for one season. Northeastern Virginians have endured enough snowless heartbreak for one season. Please, no more.

Please let the Heat Ridge build over the Southeast and Mid Atlantic. This winter is a dud and it needs to end.

It's time to move on and cut bait on a very, very bad idea.

I just wish Mother Nature would get the idea and follow suit. This is ridiculous. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THESE SOUTHEASTERN SNOWS only 150 miles to my south.

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!

-An irate Jeb.

[Anonymous]

At the risk of whining like a crybaby, I must say I share the same feelings. Watching much of the Carolinas get plastered with a bigger storm than the central Mid-Atlantic has seen all winter is almost making me sick to my stomach... this has been a classic winter of DC getting screwed, much as was the case with 2000-2001 (which saw a major snowstorm to our south in DEC for the coastal plain of NC, then DEC 30 2000 just to our N and E). Everyone from PHL-NYC-BOS saw a major winter storm on Dec 5-6 while we merely had a "significant" (5-10") one... and since then, nothing of significance, except for an overhyped 4-6" event on January 25-26. And now we sit and watch Charlotte receive 8-12" of snow, knowing we probably won't see another flake until at least December. The pattern is turning warmer for the next week to 10 days, and after that, even if the pattern becomes more favorable (which is questionable), time will be running out for areas at our latitude.

IF we can manage to see a spring with above-average temperatures and above-average severe weather, I will be able to move on and forget about this lousy winter. BUT if, after months of dry cold and suppression, we suddenly shift to a wet pattern just in time for spring when I'm looking for warmth and storms...

[Chris the Weather Man]

Wouldn't this be amazing, another summer of 1992........ The Very Cool Summer 1992.............

[Anonymous]

At the risk of whining like a crybaby, I must say I share the same feelings. Watching much of the Carolinas get plastered with a bigger storm than the central Mid-Atlantic has seen all winter is almost making me sick to my stomach... this has been a classic winter of DC getting screwed, much as was the case with 2000-2001 (which saw a major snowstorm to our south in DEC for the coastal plain of NC, then DEC 30 2000 just to our N and E). Everyone from PHL-NYC-BOS saw a major winter storm on Dec 5-6 while we merely had a "significant" (5-10") one... and since then, nothing of significance, except for an overhyped 4-6" event on January 25-26. And now we sit and watch Charlotte receive 8-12" of snow, knowing we probably won't see another flake until at least December. The pattern is turning warmer for the next week to 10 days, and after that, even if the pattern becomes more favorable (which is questionable), time will be running out for areas at our latitude.

IF we can manage to see a spring with above-average temperatures and above-average severe weather, I will be able to move on and forget about this lousy winter. BUT if, after months of dry cold and suppression, we suddenly shift to a wet pattern just in time for spring when I'm looking for warmth and storms...

For you and I and other unfortunate folks that happen to live in N VA this accursed winter, for us to cry like this in late November and December would have been uncalled-for.

But we have earned this, and earned it long and hard. We have missed out on nearly every snow this winter to be had in northeastern Virginia. To enjoy snow in the 2003- 2004 winter, you had to live in Pennsylvania/NJ in January, and in North Carolina/extreme South Virginia/SE Virginia in February.

In northeastern Virginia we were in a snow bubble. Sure we got that little 4 incher in late Jan from a weakening s/w up against a supercad, but for the most part we have missed out royally all winter.

It's normal, even expected, to endure one, maybe two Winter Screw Jobs each winter, but this winter in Woodbridge has been one to generate stomach ulcers for snow lovers here. We were missed by not only one or two snow events, but by multiple snows. This winter, snow storms were always just to our north, or just to our south, or once, just to our east. We are snow bubble veterans now, here in embattled northeastern Virginia. If you are unfortunate enough to live within 10 miles of the Potomac River, you know how difficult it is historically to see accumulation snow here in a normal winter. Last winter was a fluke and will probably not happen again for at least 30 years. We also endured mild after mild trend that relentlessly melted the snow we did manage to hold onto.

I am utterly flabbergasted at all the recurrent snows that North Carolina/South Carolina/S Virginia has enjoyed this winter. That is remarkable, to say the least. You have thought we would have at least seen one of those events. For that particular region this winter, it has been a little one-sided. Usually they are not entitled to so much snow in one winter down there.

I am happy that the snow geese in NC/SC/S VA are feeding on plenty of snow, but as this winter for us NE Virginians has trended from bad to much, much worse, it is difficult to be magnanimous. Difficult indeed. I am not allowed to drive down there and see that snow, though if I could, I would gladly fork over five years' worth of salary just for a chance to go down there and see it, to get my 12-inch snow jebwalk for once, to marvel at all the 20-foot snow mounds at all the malls down there. But I will never see them.

It is high time for this winter to gracefully end and let me move on. It has been most painful, and I do not honestly know how much more of this snowless torture I can take. This storm is going to build virga over us tonight, but we will not see so much as a consolational 1 minute flurry of snow. Our roads are nice and warm from days and days of mild weather; the ground is all thawed out and warming; my daffodils are five inches out of the ground.

Even if we did see considerable snow here in Woodbridge (And I do know that we will not; I understand that I do indeed live in a snow bubble), that snow would most certainly NOT accumulate. The ground is already too warm for it to accumulate. We have already had LOWS in the low 50s here!!! The roads are way too warm for snow, they will be wet.

So even if against all the known laws of physics, Woodbridge saw a big snow in March this year, it would be pretty, but it would not accumulate anywhere. Perhaps on a grassy surface on the north side of a hill, but even there it would be slushy and very, very quick to melt.


-Jeb

[Guest]

as preducted by ME back in NOV the southern winter storm track/ scenario has worked out AMAZINGLY well.

However Jeb please stop you whinining. You sound like a girl.


your Normal snow is neat 16-18 inches in your locations... you have had a 5-10 inch (so you say) plus a 4-6... and it can still snow into Mid march there. You are NOT that off from normal.

Besides you are over 170 miles away fromt the EDGE of the snow 200 miles away fromt the heart of it... so you are not even close.

so put a friggin sock it.

I am less 40 miles from the heavy snow ( I am 20 miles s of VA) and I have Missed out all 3 of the 4 FEB NC snows. At no time do you have any chance of seeing any snow from ANY of these NC snow. At No time did any model EVER give YOU any snow from these NC snows.

yet at one time or another NUMEROUS models DID bring heavy snow into Richmond for SEVERAL model runs ...only to take it away.

RIC normal snow is 14"-- we have had 7"... and its abou to become march. Hell even Even ORF has above its seasonal snowfall. In fact Dallas has More snow than us as well as Hunstville Nasvhille and Chattanoga...

FOR THE 2ND STRAIGHT WINTER.

last winter RIC was the ONLY location east of the Ohio river and North of ATL to see BELOW AVERAGE SNOWFALL.

YOU got heavy snow last winter so stop whining. You did get snow in the PD snowstorm....

I did not. Thats right NO snow fell at all in RIC feb 16-17 2003. NONE. zero

and the Models a mere 24 hrs before the event -- not 7 days buit 24 hrs!!!-- showed as much a 4 inches of Liquid. We got 0.63'

so please suck it up already

At the risk of whining like a crybaby, I must say I share the same feelings. Watching much of the Carolinas get plastered with a bigger storm than the central Mid-Atlantic has seen all winter is almost making me sick to my stomach... this has been a classic winter of DC getting screwed, much as was the case with 2000-2001 (which saw a major snowstorm to our south in DEC for the coastal plain of NC, then DEC 30 2000 just to our N and E). Everyone from PHL-NYC-BOS saw a major winter storm on Dec 5-6 while we merely had a "significant" (5-10") one... and since then, nothing of significance, except for an overhyped 4-6" event on January 25-26. And now we sit and watch Charlotte receive 8-12" of snow, knowing we probably won't see another flake until at least December. The pattern is turning warmer for the next week to 10 days, and after that, even if the pattern becomes more favorable (which is questionable), time will be running out for areas at our latitude.

IF we can manage to see a spring with above-average temperatures and above-average severe weather, I will be able to move on and forget about this lousy winter. BUT if, after months of dry cold and suppression, we suddenly shift to a wet pattern just in time for spring when I'm looking for warmth and storms...

For you and I and other unfortunate folks that happen to live in N VA this accursed winter, for us to cry like this in late November and December would have been uncalled-for.

But we have earned this, and earned it long and hard. We have missed out on nearly every snow this winter to be had in northeastern Virginia. To enjoy snow in the 2003- 2004 winter, you had to live in Pennsylvania/NJ in January, and in North Carolina/extreme South Virginia/SE Virginia in February.

In northeastern Virginia we were in a snow bubble. Sure we got that little 4 incher in late Jan from a weakening s/w up against a supercad, but for the most part we have missed out royally all winter.

It's normal, even expected, to endure one, maybe two Winter Screw Jobs each winter, but this winter in Woodbridge has been one to generate stomach ulcers for snow lovers here. We were missed by not only one or two snow events, but by multiple snows. This winter, snow storms were always just to our north, or just to our south, or once, just to our east. We are snow bubble veterans now, here in embattled northeastern Virginia. If you are unfortunate enough to live within 10 miles of the Potomac River, you know how difficult it is historically to see accumulation snow here in a normal winter. Last winter was a fluke and will probably not happen again for at least 30 years. We also endured mild after mild trend that relentlessly melted the snow we did manage to hold onto.

I am utterly flabbergasted at all the recurrent snows that North Carolina/South Carolina/S Virginia has enjoyed this winter. That is remarkable, to say the least. You have thought we would have at least seen one of those events. For that particular region this winter, it has been a little one-sided. Usually they are not entitled to so much snow in one winter down there.

I am happy that the snow geese in NC/SC/S VA are feeding on plenty of snow, but as this winter for us NE Virginians has trended from bad to much, much worse, it is difficult to be magnanimous. Difficult indeed. I am not allowed to drive down there and see that snow, though if I could, I would gladly fork over five years' worth of salary just for a chance to go down there and see it, to get my 12-inch snow jebwalk for once, to marvel at all the 20-foot snow mounds at all the malls down there. But I will never see them.

It is high time for this winter to gracefully end and let me move on. It has been most painful, and I do not honestly know how much more of this snowless torture I can take. This storm is going to build virga over us tonight, but we will not see so much as a consolational 1 minute flurry of snow. Our roads are nice and warm from days and days of mild weather; the ground is all thawed out and warming; my daffodils are five inches out of the ground.

Even if we did see considerable snow here in Woodbridge (And I do know that we will not; I understand that I do indeed live in a snow bubble), that snow would most certainly NOT accumulate. The ground is already too warm for it to accumulate. We have already had LOWS in the low 50s here!!! The roads are way too warm for snow, they will be wet.

So even if against all the known laws of physics, Woodbridge saw a big snow in March this year, it would be pretty, but it would not accumulate anywhere. Perhaps on a grassy surface on the north side of a hill, but even there it would be slushy and very, very quick to melt.


-Jeb

[Anonymous]

You have a point. Good post, too. Yeah, I need to stop whining. You had it MUCH worse.

Additionally, I experienced this reaction from your excellent post......




ROFLMAO!!!!!!





-Jeb

[SacrydDreamz]

YOU got heavy snow last winter so stop whining. You did get snow in the PD snowstorm....

I did not. Thats right NO snow fell at all in RIC feb 16-17 2003. NONE. zero

That's a lie... I drove home that Monday... through the snow. I-64 was COMPLETELY snow covered from I-81 (MM 89) to exit 214 where I live, save for a 15-20 mile stretch of 1 lane of pavement in Louisa. I even drove through light snow falling in Goochland and the West End. My house saw nearly 4" of sleet and snow with about 1/4" of freezing rain. Maybe Chester didn't see snow, but I know for a fact that RIC did.

[Anonymous]

BUSTED!!!!!!!!

[JQ Public]

sorry guys...but i've learned from this storm that it ain't over til its over.

[Cheesy_Poofs]

Yep...lousy winter, sure. There's always next winter though...time to look forward to Severe Thunderstorm/Cane season!

[Guest]

RANDY Louisa county is NOT richmond.... geta clue. do I have to reports the WSI now famous radar map which showed the donut right over ric for hours on end?

3-=4 inches of snow grains when YOU and JEB has 12-20 inches is NOT snow dude. YOu post is Laughable

a HISTOTIC Blizzard is raging from western NC to BOS yet YOYR own words -- not mine-- said " I even droive througn some LIGJT snow in the west end

OH MY GOD NOT LIGHT SNOW randy!!!! Why didnt we call out the national guard of 2.5 Mile VIS and light snow... what was the GOV thinking...

YOU got heavy snow last winter so stop whining. You did get snow in the PD snowstorm....

I did not. Thats right NO snow fell at all in RIC feb 16-17 2003. NONE. zero

That's a lie... I drove home that Monday... through the snow. I-64 was COMPLETELY snow covered from I-81 (MM 89) to exit 214 where I live, save for a 15-20 mile stretch of 1 lane of pavement in Louisa. I even drove through light snow falling in Goochland and the West End. My house saw nearly 4" of sleet and snow with about 1/4" of freezing rain. Maybe Chester didn't see snow, but I know for a fact that RIC did.

[Chris the Weather Man]

DT, That's You right in Your Avatar? ( Correct me if I am wrong) Don't Flame me..............

[Guest]

NO you are just well kind of a blow hole....

as this radar CLEARLY shows in the height of PD 2 in feb 2003 there is this HUGE donut over RIC

JEB if you are going to tell me that THIS radar is showing ANY snow--- any heavy moderate or light snow over RIC you are mentally impaired


[quote="Jeb]
BUSTED!!!!!!!!

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[Chris the Weather Man]

Blow Hole? Jeb or Me?

[Anonymous]

Okay DT---YOU WIN.


I was wrong, I can see that from the radar.

Okay, I, Jeb, am BUSTED but GOOD.

You'll get your snow DT. You'll get to go places where there will be snow that I will only get to dream about.

You'll get your snow.

I'll be here in NE Virginia, in a perpetual snow bubble, or have to move in with my mom in South Texas, or have to go live in Hawaii for the rest of my life.

I do not want to live in Hawaii. I am sick to death of summer. I want to live in a place like Sakhalin Island or Murmansk or North Greenland or Moncton, NB or the north coast of Alaska for the rest of my life. Such is my worship and deep devotion to snow and ice. I love Glaciers and bitterly cold, strong winds and impassable drifts.

I love snow more than anything else in life but snow is something I will not get to enjoy much of. I envy you so much!! You will get to go where it is at, because you are a meteorologist.

Whoever said life is fair. It is not fair, but that is the breaks I guess.

-Jeb.

[Cheesy_Poofs]

DT, That's You right in Your Avatar? ( Correct me if I am wrong) Don't Flame me..............

No Chris, it's not him...it's John Edwards I believe.

[Chris the Weather Man]

Oh, Thank You

[Guest]

[quote="DT"]At no time do you have any chance of seeing any snow from ANY of these NC snow. At No time did any model EVER give YOU any snow from these NC snows.



Wrong.....GFS gave us 20 inches on several runs 5-7 days out......