Kerry in Florida - Democratic Scare Tactic

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Kerry in Florida - Democratic Scare Tactic

#1 Postby southerngale » Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:36 am

The Democrats call Florida the "scene of the 2000 recount crime." That's great rhetoric that plays well in the mainstream leftist press .. but not so well with anyone with even a modest knowledge of the facts.* Facts, however, don't matter to some Democrats. The economy is growing, they say it's in the tank. Unemployment is down, Democrats say the jobs picture is a disaster. Facts mean nothing ... rhetoric is king.

So, there he was ... John Kerry in West Palm Beach Florida pulling one of the oldest Democratic stunts on the books. He was telling Florida's wizened citizens that George Bush wants to cut their Social Security benefits. Nothing is quite so effective at getting the wrinkled class into a complete panic than telling them that their Social Security benefits are going to be cut. Democrats know this, and this is why Democrats have used this very same tactic in every single presidential election since the end of World War II. Funny thing though ... whenever the Republicans win, Social Security benefits do not get cut. Odd how that happens, isn't it?

But, year after year, the tactic continues. Democrats try to frighten old people. Old people vote for Democrats. An absolutely dependable cycle.

Now ... just what could happen to mess up this quadrennial Democrat scare game? One thing. If the senior citizens knew that the Republicans could NOT reduce their benefits they would be less likely to run frightened to the polls to keep their Democrat protectors in office. And just what would it take to protect these benefits from being cut by politicians? Why, if those Social Security accounts were privately owned, that's what!

That, my friends, is why John Kerry was down there in Florida yesterday promising that no matter what, he would never permit Social Security to be privatized. You see, it's not about preserving the meager retirement benefits that Social Security provides --- if, that is, you live long enough to collect them. It's about preserving your ability to frighten old folks about losing those benefits ... and the only way you can do that is if Social Security is not privatized.

Here's something else for you to remember. A few years ago Republicans proposed a bill in Congress that would guarantee Social Security benefits to retirees. Oh! What's that? You say that you thought those benefits were guaranteed anyway? Not so! There is no law on the books which guarantees your right to benefits. They can be take away by the congress at any time. So ... the Republicans said why not just pass a law saying that those benefits are guaranteed and can not be taken away? Well ... guess who blocked this legislation. The Democrats, of course. The very same politicians who are always warning old folks that Republicans are going to take away their Social Security objected to a federal law that would guarantee them. You do understand why, don't you? It's simple. Because if those benefits were guaranteed, the Democrats could no longer frighten old folks by saying that they were going to be taken away!

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*The fact is that every single recount of all the votes in Florida showed that Bush won. The very same national press corps that wanted Gore to win so badly pooled their resources and sent a team to Florida to count all the votes ... hanging chads and all. And who won? You got it ... George Bush.

Just so you know, I didn't write the article above but I did add the word "some" to the 3rd sentence in the first paragraph because I don't believe that facts don't matter to all Democrats and didn't want anyone thinking that was me saying that right off the bat. However, do you have any logical reason why Democrats continue to use this scare tactic? They know that Republicans don't cut their social security even though the Democrats claim they will every election. It gets old. Without a logical reason, one must assume that the facts don't matter and they will lie or say anything to scare old people into voting for them. If I'm wrong, please show me how.

* http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html
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#2 Postby rainstorm » Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:30 am

dems are good at fear
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#3 Postby j » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:39 am

You are absolutely right Kelly. Being from Massachusetts, I have seen this my whole life with the elderly clinging to any Kennedy that is in office. Why??? for the very reason you elude to Kelly. They paint themselves (Kennedy and the rest of the Massachusetts Democrats--Kerry included), as the only politicians who will look out for the elderly. They have made a career over sucking up to the AARP. It has not mattered WHAT Ted Kennedy has done through the years, they will stick by him because he is their savior. (just don't ever accept a ride home with him)

Then of course......the Democrats are the ONLY politicians who care about minorities. They will have you believe this.....year after year after year.

I'm sick and tired of Democratic scare tactics. Why can't they just come up with a new plan, instead of the same old boring rhetoric and blatant lies????
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Kerry in Florida

#4 Postby sunnyday » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:03 am

Not everyone is Florida is a wizened, wrinkled citizen. I think he hopes to appeal to all Dems there in one way or another.
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Re: Kerry in Florida

#5 Postby BocaGirl » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:54 am

[quote="sunnyday"]Not everyone is Florida is a wizened, wrinkled citizen. [/quote]

You got that right!! (Although it's easy to forget if you're trying to get a table at a restaurant during Early-Bird Special time...................)

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Kerry in Fla

#6 Postby sunnyday » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:56 am

lol, Boca Girl, I know what you mean. But, we'll all be there if we live that long.
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#7 Postby Stephanie » Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:28 pm

Greenspan just brought up that he felt that the SS benefits should be cut in order to future retirees in order to save the system. Neither side agreed with him, but we've known long before Greenspan brought it up that there's a problem that needs to be fixed. These people should've already been aware of this.
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#8 Postby stormchazer » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:16 pm

I have but one question to add. This is a problem that has been talked about back to the 70's, but when has the check ever not arrived? During the Clinton budget battles, the Government was "shut down", but still the checks were mailed. The Social Security check is just like death, inevitable and always coming.
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#9 Postby Stephanie » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:39 pm

They never have stopped coming Jara. However, we need to ensure that they never stop coming.
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#10 Postby stormchazer » Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:25 pm

Stephanie wrote:They never have stopped coming Jara. However, we need to ensure that they never stop coming.


Why? That is this countries biggest problem. The government takes care of us and we get softer and softer. When will we take care of our own futures? I am piling all I can in my 401K. I do not want to count on Social Security.
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#11 Postby Stephanie » Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:21 pm

I don't want to count on Social Security either, but ever since I started working (at 16), I understood that the SS dollars coming out of my paycheck was to come back to me when I retire. I'll be DARNED if I've paid all of that money just to see NOTHING when I retire.

There are alot of people that are on permanent disability that rely on that money to live. They CAN'T work. Even if we didn't have SS to rely on, there would be no way that the government would be able to allow people to starve, go homeless, etc. without assistance. The public wouldn't allow it.
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#12 Postby streetsoldier » Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:31 pm

I'm one of those people...SS is the main source of income here, along with dependent's benefits. But, SS won't be the determining factor in my voting this fall.
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#13 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:23 pm

Stephanie wrote:I don't want to count on Social Security either, but ever since I started working (at 16), I understood that the SS dollars coming out of my paycheck was to come back to me when I retire. I'll be DARNED if I've paid all of that money just to see NOTHING when I retire.

There are alot of people that are on permanent disability that rely on that money to live. They CAN'T work. Even if we didn't have SS to rely on, there would be no way that the government would be able to allow people to starve, go homeless, etc. without assistance. The public wouldn't allow it.


AMEN Steph!!
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