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Osama Bin Laden speaks=Truce to Europe,Revenge to America

#1 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:50 am

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

A new audiotape that many experts say it is OBL speaking calls for a truce to european nations but vows revenge to America and Israel.
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#2 Postby coriolis » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:12 am

Divide and conquer. Europe may fold without any outside help anyway. The population of Arabs/Islamics in Europe is booming while there is zero population growth of native Europeans. The issue of dress codes in French Schools is just the beginning. Europe is going to find themselves in a situation that they can't get out of. I'm not confident that they will have the guts to save themselves.
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#3 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:19 am

Agree Ed about divide and win and that is what Al-Qaeda wants now to happen.Now the question is if the europeans will cave into this trap from OBL.But tommorow Tony Blair will visit the white house and I am sure that Bush will say to him not to do what OBL wants.
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#4 Postby rainstorm » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:22 am

im not worried about blair. actually, i think this will backfire. if any euro nation agrees with osama they will be seen as pathetic.
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#5 Postby Guest » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:33 am

coriolis wrote:Divide and conquer. Europe may fold without any outside help anyway. The population of Arabs/Islamics in Europe is booming while there is zero population growth of native Europeans. The issue of dress codes in French Schools is just the beginning. Europe is going to find themselves in a situation that they can't get out of. I'm not confident that they will have the guts to save themselves.


There's only one way to save ourselves: close the borders, reject all muslims (even those born inside) living in europe, wait that our population of wasp christian arian pure filtered race is filling the gap. Then we might open the borders again, invade them, killing them all and restore justice.
I see no other ways.
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#6 Postby stormraiser » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:40 am

paolofromrome wrote: wait that our population of wasp christian arian pure filtered race is filling the gap



Is that being typed sarcastically? I can't believe you just said that.
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#7 Postby Guest » Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:54 am

stormraiser wrote:
paolofromrome wrote: wait that our population of wasp christian arian pure filtered race is filling the gap


Is that being typed sarcastically? I can't believe you just said that.


Of course it has been typed sarcastically! Need to point that out??
geez! You here do not get so astonished, ashamed and orrifed if somebody says "nuke'em all" or "kill'em all", but please don't mention racism...
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#8 Postby stormraiser » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:02 am

Paolo, we all have our beliefs and opinions on race. I was just surprised at what you had written after what your country went through during WWII. I understand some people's opinions on racism and why they think that way. I don't condone all of it, but I was shocked to see what you wrote because of your normal tone. Don't get upset. As many have said, it is hard to read most of what you read on line and detect the tone of someone's voice :)
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#9 Postby TexasStooge » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:09 am

Bin Laden needs to be taken down fast!

I'm getting so sick & tired of his threats to attack America. :x
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#10 Postby Guest » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:11 am

stormraiser wrote:Paolo, we all have our beliefs and opinions on race. I was just surprised at what you had written after what your country went through during WWII. I understand some people's opinions on racism and why they think that way. I don't condone all of it, but I was shocked to see what you wrote because of your normal tone. Don't get upset. As many have said, it is hard to read most of what you read on line and detect the tone of someone's voice :)


storm, the whole sentence I wrote is so enourmously wrong that I would never ever thought that somebody could have, even for a second, took it seriously.
It's a way of saying that there's no way: we must share this little planet at our best, but it seems to me we're doing the same across the centuries: killing each other...
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#11 Postby stormraiser » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:15 am

Ok, I know there are many in Europe that feel the way you posted in that thread. I wasn't too shocked at most of it, just the part about your WASP, Christian, Aryan blood :o

I don't see a problem with most of it. We do need to control immigration. People need to enter a country and become a part of that nation, not hold on to their former country. This country was looked upon as a melting pot, at one point. People came here and were happy to be American, learned the language and participated for the good of the whole.

Multiculturalism is killing this country. In an attempt to be inclusive, it is just fanning the centuries of hatred that were being overcome. (Geez, how did Helen get my password :D )
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#12 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:16 am

TexasStooge wrote:Bin Laden needs to be taken down fast!

I'm getting so sick & tired of his threats to attack America. :x


Now his new strategic move is to divide the europeans from the US to make those people to not favor the US.But I hope that very soon he and Zarhrwi the #2 are caught or killed. :grrr:
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#13 Postby TexasStooge » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:16 am

To add, if Osama attacks America, he's gonna eventually turn his back on Europe, attack it too, and blast every country in the world 'til there's nothing left.
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#14 Postby BEER980 » Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:36 am

I guess he is not as surrounded as they want us to believe.
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#15 Postby Guest » Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:26 am

stormraiser wrote:Ok, I know there are many in Europe that feel the way you posted in that thread. I wasn't too shocked at most of it, just the part about your WASP, Christian, Aryan blood :o

I don't see a problem with most of it. We do need to control immigration. People need to enter a country and become a part of that nation, not hold on to their former country. This country was looked upon as a melting pot, at one point. People came here and were happy to be American, learned the language and participated for the good of the whole.

Multiculturalism is killing this country. In an attempt to be inclusive, it is just fanning the centuries of hatred that were being overcome. (Geez, how did Helen get my password :D )


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#16 Postby WEATHER53 » Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:38 am

Interesting thread. It is a divide and conquer and I think the Euros can see thru the scam. I also believe that some of the other countries would not be as squeamish concering reprisals as we seem to be if their civilians are paraded about and harmed. We still do not seem to want to go to any length, citing it is not civilized to use certain methods. I think it is far more uncivilized to use carpet methods that kill civilians and rile the populous than it would be to use some behinds the scenes stuff like assassination and even torture to get us directly to the root of the problem.
Concerning immigration, the land of the free was once a place where people of other lands came, were generally not treated very hospitably initially, but went through the rigors of learning the language and assimilating, and became part of- with all the benefits thereof. Now no one wants to assimilate, learning the language has become politically incorrect, working for the benefits is too hard so must just give it away, afro-American and other prefixes is bunk, I am no euro-American just American, and achieving a life in American is being changed to being given a life in America and the concept of making admission to the free country essentially "free", well I guess it's worth what you paid for it.
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#17 Postby Stephanie » Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:58 am

Weather53 - many of the European nations already saw through the scam; :D

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4743768/?GT1=3256

Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain have rejected it.
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#18 Postby TexasStooge » Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:03 am

Stephanie wrote:Weather53 - many of the European nations already saw through the scam; :D

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4743768/?GT1=3256

Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain have rejected it.

Good! The more rejections, the better
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#19 Postby Guest » Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:12 am

WEATHER53 wrote:Interesting thread. It is a divide and conquer and I think the Euros can see thru the scam. I also believe that some of the other countries would not be as squeamish concering reprisals as we seem to be if their civilians are paraded about and harmed. We still do not seem to want to go to any length, citing it is not civilized to use certain methods. I think it is far more uncivilized to use carpet methods that kill civilians and rile the populous than it would be to use some behinds the scenes stuff like assassination and even torture to get us directly to the root of the problem.
Concerning immigration, the land of the free was once a place where people of other lands came, were generally not treated very hospitably initially, but went through the rigors of learning the language and assimilating, and became part of- with all the benefits thereof. Now no one wants to assimilate, learning the language has become politically incorrect, working for the benefits is too hard so must just give it away, afro-American and other prefixes is bunk, I am no euro-American just American, and achieving a life in American is being changed to being given a life in America and the concept of making admission to the free country essentially "free", well I guess it's worth what you paid for it.


I highly doubt that those who were brought here from Africa as slaves and were legally forbidden opportunities until 40 years ago would agree with your assertions about prefixes.
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#20 Postby Guest » Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:15 am

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WEATHER53 wrote:Interesting thread. It is a divide and conquer and I think the Euros can see thru the scam. I also believe that some of the other countries would not be as squeamish concering reprisals as we seem to be if their civilians are paraded about and harmed. We still do not seem to want to go to any length, citing it is not civilized to use certain methods. I think it is far more uncivilized to use carpet methods that kill civilians and rile the populous than it would be to use some behinds the scenes stuff like assassination and even torture to get us directly to the root of the problem.
Concerning immigration, the land of the free was once a place where people of other lands came, were generally not treated very hospitably initially, but went through the rigors of learning the language and assimilating, and became part of- with all the benefits thereof. Now no one wants to assimilate, learning the language has become politically incorrect, working for the benefits is too hard so must just give it away, afro-American and other prefixes is bunk, I am no euro-American just American, and achieving a life in American is being changed to being given a life in America and the concept of making admission to the free country essentially "free", well I guess it's worth what you paid for it.


I highly doubt that those who were brought here from Africa as slaves and were legally forbidden opportunities until 40 years ago would agree with your assertions about prefixes.


not to mention native-Americans
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