If it does become alex will it be retired?

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If it does become alex will it be retired?

#1 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue May 25, 2004 7:20 pm

It this system does become Alex will it be retired? Because of the over 500 deaths the system caused in the Domincan Republic and Hati. Or will they leave it. :?:
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#2 Postby Matthew5 » Tue May 25, 2004 7:27 pm

Remember on the visible that day it shown this very LLCC south of Hati. With deep convection that was sitting over the northeastern quad which is what made all that rain. This storm was as deadly as any slow moving tropical depression I ever seen :(
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#3 Postby cycloneye » Tue May 25, 2004 7:31 pm

Matthew5 congrats for being now a tropical low. :)
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#4 Postby Matthew5 » Tue May 25, 2004 7:32 pm

Thank you cycloneye :)
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#5 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 25, 2004 7:41 pm

If it becomes Alex, I don't think it will be retired since the deaths happened when the system was a poorly organized without a recognizable distinction.

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#6 Postby Matthew5 » Tue May 25, 2004 7:44 pm

Poorly oreganized? It had just about as much oreganizion south of Hati, then it did earlier this morning.
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#7 Postby Hurricanehink » Tue May 25, 2004 8:03 pm

I remember the precursor to T.S. Leslie in 2000 caused a lot of damage and quite a lot of deaths in Florida and Cuba, but it wasn't retired. I think it has to be during the real part of the storm, though I may be mistaken.
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#8 Postby senorpepr » Tue May 25, 2004 8:08 pm

Names are usually retired because of the associated memories with that name. Had this system be named Alex before the deaths, then I'd say yes. However, since the deaths occurred while this system was unnamed, then no.
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#9 Postby Brent » Tue May 25, 2004 8:10 pm

NO CHANCE, unless it does something unlikely and is named then slams into some land mass and causes a lot of deaths.

It has to be officially named when it does the damage to get retired.
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#10 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue May 25, 2004 8:14 pm

senorpepr wrote:Names are usually retired because of the associated memories with that name. Had this system be named Alex before the deaths, then I'd say yes. However, since the deaths occurred while this system was unnamed, then no.

Absolutely right. It would be impossible to retire a system that wasn't named when it affected an area that (in this case) caused devastating flooding.

I've only heard of hurricanes being retired, not tropical storms.
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#11 Postby Matthew5 » Tue May 25, 2004 8:17 pm

Yes there was a tropical storm that was retired it was "Allison" In which was a poorly oreganized system that was maybe no more oreganized then this was.
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#12 Postby jabber » Tue May 25, 2004 8:18 pm

But I doubt the NHC will name it as its moving away anyway
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#13 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue May 25, 2004 8:23 pm

Tropical systems have been named as they move out to sea.
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#14 Postby Matthew5 » Tue May 25, 2004 8:23 pm

Then Jabber, your saying that by your thinking/reasoning that peter should of never been named? Or any system that is not close to land or moving away from it. The nhc is not just for warning land masses it is for tracking tropical cyclones that earn to be tropical cyclones no matter what way the system is going.
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#15 Postby Brent » Tue May 25, 2004 8:53 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:
senorpepr wrote:Names are usually retired because of the associated memories with that name. Had this system be named Alex before the deaths, then I'd say yes. However, since the deaths occurred while this system was unnamed, then no.

Absolutely right. It would be impossible to retire a system that wasn't named when it affected an area that (in this case) caused devastating flooding.

I've only heard of hurricanes being retired, not tropical storms.


Allison is one of the few tropical storms retired, it was because of DEVASTATING flooding. I remember Allison a week after it hit Texas crossing Alabama with some rain. Amazing.
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#16 Postby Stormsfury » Tue May 25, 2004 9:58 pm

Allison is one of the few tropical storms retired, it was because of DEVASTATING flooding. I remember Allison a week after it hit Texas crossing Alabama with some rain. Amazing.


Allison was the ONLY tropical storm ever retired on the list ... and yes, the damage was phenomenal with flooding with stationary banding over the Houston area and portions of Louisiana ...

Remember on the visible that day it shown this very LLCC south of Hati. With deep convection that was sitting over the northeastern quad which is what made all that rain. This storm was as deadly as any slow moving tropical depression I ever seen


Kinda like last year with the tropical wave last year in late November which deluged Puerto Rico and several of the islands with over 20"+ rain, and that system was never classified ... just because it doesn't have a name or quantifies as a "tropical cyclone" doesn't mean it can't be just as destructive.
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#17 Postby MWatkins » Tue May 25, 2004 10:05 pm

No.

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#18 Postby senorpepr » Tue May 25, 2004 10:22 pm

MWatkins wrote:No.


:D Well put.
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#19 Postby george_r_1961 » Wed May 26, 2004 3:00 am

ColdFront77 wrote:
senorpepr wrote:Names are usually retired because of the associated memories with that name. Had this system be named Alex before the deaths, then I'd say yes. However, since the deaths occurred while this system was unnamed, then no.

Absolutely right. It would be impossible to retire a system that wasn't named when it affected an area that (in this case) caused devastating flooding.

I've only heard of hurricanes being retired, not tropical storms.


Allison was retired and it was a tropical storm
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#20 Postby ColdFront77 » Wed May 26, 2004 4:03 am

ColdFront77 wrote:I've only heard of hurricanes being retired, not tropical storms.

george_r_1961 wrote:Allison was retired and it was a tropical storm


Yup! :D     :darrow:

Brent wrote:Allison is one of the few tropical storms retired, it was because of DEVASTATING flooding. I remember Allison a week after it hit Texas crossing Alabama with some rain. Amazing.
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