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#21 Postby Guest » Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:47 am

vbhoutex wrote:
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rainstorm wrote:here is another scenario. the dem convention is july.
tenet resigns in july. are they taking the spotlight form the dems?
also, could it be cheney goes to cia, and guliani to vp?


Giuliani is too politically saavy to associate himself with the Bush admin.

Why would Giuliani want to try to rescue a sinking ship?

What does he have to gain by it?


PLENTY!!! More National exposure than he already has that would firmly put him in a position to move into Cheney's current postion on the ticket. He has been out of the limelight for a while.

Your post is based on your opinion of him as opposed to what does he actually have to gain from it. :D


I like Giuliani to some degree.

But he is already well politically positioned to run in 2008.

Why attach himself to an adminisration that the majority of Americans dissaprove of?

It makes sense for the Bush admin as it would help them

But for Rudy, it is political suicide.
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#22 Postby Stephanie » Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:37 pm

I see your point Zwyts.
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#23 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:27 pm

Majority of Americans disapprove? lol.
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#24 Postby Stephanie » Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:59 pm

I'm assuming he's basing it on the polls, which in this case, he'd be right.
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#25 Postby southerngale » Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:09 pm

Only momentarily...thanks to the media. They report everything they can to try and make Bush look bad, whether it's his fault or not. That doesn't matter. If anyone doesn't see this, you really need to pay more attention. Just look at Abu Ghraib for one example.

Hopefully, most Americans will eventually see this, at least to a certain degree and Bush will get re-elected. There's a ton of evidence out there supporting this, but you won't get it from the news on TV. :roll:
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#26 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:13 pm

southerngale wrote:Only momentarily...thanks to the media. They report everything they can to try and make Bush look bad, whether it's his fault or not. That doesn't matter. If anyone doesn't see this, you really need to pay more attention. Just look at Abu Ghraib for one example.

Hopefully, most Americans will eventually see this, at least to a certain degree and Bush will get re-elected. There's a ton of evidence out there supporting this, but you won't get it from the news on TV. :roll:


Thank you!!
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#27 Postby Guest » Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:32 pm

southerngale wrote:Only momentarily...thanks to the media. They report everything they can to try and make Bush look bad, whether it's his fault or not. That doesn't matter. If anyone doesn't see this, you really need to pay more attention. Just look at Abu Ghraib for one example.

Hopefully, most Americans will eventually see this, at least to a certain degree and Bush will get re-elected. There's a ton of evidence out there supporting this, but you won't get it from the news on TV. :roll:



Exactly. And i will add this is what was (Not sure about now) happening in Ohio. polls were favoring Kerry by almost 10pts a few months ago because to simply put it Ohio is in bad shape. Is it Bushes fault? I dont think so and now (right before i left) people are starting to see this and is why imo Bush has gained alot of ground and had re taken the lead out there. (Not by much but was ahead right before i left) Wanna blame someone for why things are very bad in that state try the Governor on down. Which like i said alot of people are (Finally) starting to see. It was very funny to see all the local TV outlets (Columbus area) say oh look at what Kerry wants to do for Ohio when he first came to the state which he got a good jump on Bush but once Bush did start making visits there especially in the northern areas they (Media outlets) became alot more quiet and when they mentioned Bush all you would hear was about the people who were protesting the war and crap like that and not about what the man can do for the state nor what he promises to do and nor what he has done for the state of Ohio!
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#28 Postby Guest » Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:20 pm

Lindaloo wrote:Majority of Americans disapprove? lol.


Bush's approval rating is below 50%, hence the MAJORITY of Americans dissaprove. pretty simple concept if ya ask me.
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#29 Postby GalvestonDuck » Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:29 pm

Depends upon which poll you look at and what mood the person was in when they voted.
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#30 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:30 pm

zwyts wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:Majority of Americans disapprove? lol.


Bush's approval rating is below 50%, hence the MAJORITY of Americans dissaprove. pretty simple concept if ya ask me.


For now. Your hidden sarcasm is noted once again.
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#31 Postby Wnghs2007 » Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:42 pm

zwyts wrote:
Why attach himself to an adminisration that the majority of Americans dissaprove of?




That is what the leftist media would lead you to believe. That is why Foxnews and Washington Times are around for. To keep us to know that truth that the Liberal media would want you to think. Why dont you try listening to Sirius Right for a time. As they call it the weapon of mass destruction against the left. LOL :lol:
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#32 Postby Guest » Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:51 pm

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Why attach himself to an adminisration that the majority of Americans dissaprove of?




That is what the leftist media would lead you to believe. That is why Foxnews and Washington Times are around for. To keep us to know that truth that the Liberal media would want you to think. Why dont you try listening to Sirius Right for a time. As they call it the weapon of mass destruction against the left. LOL :lol:


I do not mean this in a mocking way, but are there polls out there that show Bush with an Approval rating above 50% and if so, can you provide the link?
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#33 Postby GalvestonDuck » Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:54 pm

zwyts wrote:I do not mean this in a mocking way, but are there polls out there that show Bush with an Approval rating above 50% and if so, can you provide the link?


http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
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#34 Postby Wnghs2007 » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:00 pm

zwyts wrote:I do not mean this in a mocking way, but are there polls out there that show Bush with an Approval rating above 50% and if so, can you provide the link?



http://insider.washingtontimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20040530-124315-2654r

Republican base solid under Bush
From the Nation/Politics section
By Ralph Z. Hallow
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

President Bush has maintained strong support among Republican voters even as bad news from Iraq has drowned out good economic news and driven down the president's overall standing in recent polls.
"It's clear that Bush's job-approval rating among Republicans has remained remarkably high during his entire administration," said Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll.
The Gallup Poll reported last week that 89 percent of Republicans give Mr. Bush high job-performance marks -- four points higher than President Reagan had five months before his re-election in 1984.
"We are at the high end of approval ratings among our base of all presidents who have won re-election, including Reagan," said Matthew Dowd, Bush campaign strategist and pollster.
By another important measurement, Mr. Bush and his base are getting along famously.
The intensity of support from Bush voters remains high, well above Democrats' support for Sen. John Kerry, who is less well-known among voters, according to a May 18-19 Opinion Dynamics Corp. poll of 900 registered voters.
That survey found 78 percent of Bush voters "strongly" support him -- up 5 percentage points since early April -- and 21 percent say they "somewhat" support him.
By contrast, 59 percent of Kerry backers say they "strongly" support him -- up 7 points from April -- and 40 percent "somewhat" support him.
For Mr. Bush, history suggests that strong job approval among members of his party may be an important predictor for November.

Since 1972, incumbent presidents with an intraparty approval rating of at least 85 percent have managed to hold off the furniture movers for another four years. However, beginning with Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1956, no president has won re-election with an overall approval rating of less than 50 percent this late in a presidential election.
Mr. Bush has been below 50 percent in nearly every major poll reported this month, but could boost that rating if he improves his weak support among independent voters, now at 39 percent. A smooth turnover of power in Iraq next month or continued good news on the economy -- or both -- might help Mr. Bush's standing with independents.
Republicans have shown strong loyalty to Mr. Bush from the onset of his presidency in 2001, when about nine in 10 Republicans approved his performance, said Gallup's Mr. Newport. After the September 11 terror attacks, GOP support for Mr. Bush rose to nearly 100 percent.
"As Bush's overall ratings slipped, his approval dropped back a little to roughly the 90 percent level among Republicans, but no further," Mr. Newport wrote in a poll analysis last week, but added: "Bush has lost support among both independents and Democrats. In Gallup's most recent poll, in fact, Bush's job performance is approved of by only 12 percent of Democrats."
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#35 Postby Guest » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:05 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:
zwyts wrote:I do not mean this in a mocking way, but are there polls out there that show Bush with an Approval rating above 50% and if so, can you provide the link?


http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm


Duck, every single one of those polls show him with an approval rating under 50%, even Foxnews. Did I miss something?
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#36 Postby Guest » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:07 pm

KC...I was looking for something that showed him with an approval rating above 50%, but thanks anyway for the article.
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#37 Postby Brent » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:34 pm

I want to see some new polls. The latest poll is now 10 days old.
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#38 Postby Guest » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:48 pm

Brent wrote:I want to see some new polls. The latest poll is now 10 days old.


He has had a good week. Perhaps he has gone above 50% in some polls.
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#39 Postby Stephanie » Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:09 am

Dare I say that if and when a Democrat is in office, and those polls are showing less than 50% approval, the media won't be looking too liberal then. :roll:
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#40 Postby streetsoldier » Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:29 am

No, Steph; if the liberal media reports such a poll at all (assuming that a Democrat is in the Oval Office), they will either ignore it or bury it on page 67, right beside the "Flower Shop Opening on St. James Square" story. :roll:

They did that at the outset of the Monica report, when Clinton's ratings hit 47%...why "change their spots" in the future?
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