LLCC now visible on Visible satellite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matthew5 · #1 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:16 pm

http://adds.aviationweather.gov/satelli ... &itype=vis

There is what appears to be a LLCC moving westward northwest of the deep convection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But it also looks like the convection is starting to cover it

Tell me different!

Matthew5 · #2 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:23 pm

Looks like the convection has almost covered it 8-)

HurricaneGirl · #3 Postby **HurricaneGirl** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:36 pm

Quite the persistant blob!

Matthew5 · #4 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:37 pm

Yes it is did you see as that "LLCC" move back under that convection! :eek:

CaluWxBill · #5 Postby **CaluWxBill** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:39 pm

for June this is definitely an eye catcher.

Lindaloo · #6 Postby **Lindaloo** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:40 pm

I guess I am blind. lol.

Matthew5 · #7 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:41 pm

It is on the northwestern side in just moved back into the Convection I swear to god it is a LLCC.

Lindaloo · #8 Postby **Lindaloo** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:45 pm

Looks like the spin you are talking about is away from the blowup.

Matthew5 · #9 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:47 pm

It just moved back into the convection! In the next hour or two when the new quickscat comes back I think it will show it.

Guest · #10 Postby **Guest** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:49 pm

Matthew5 wrote:It just moved back into the convection! In the next hour or two when the new quickscat comes back I think it will show it.

I have been watching it myself and i didnt notice it either Mat.

HurricaneGirl · #11 Postby **HurricaneGirl** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:50 pm

I've been having fun watching it on my favorite map!

Stormsfury · #12 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:50 pm

Nope ... the trough/wave has sharpened up a bit since yesterday, and you have to look CLOSELY at the low-levels (block out the wispy clouds), but there's still no evidence of any LL clouds moving towards the east ... (clouds across the Western Yucatan Peninsula are moving NNW to N.)

Nice link, Matthew5 ...

Now look at the latest WV imagery and what stands out today ... look at the dry air being channeled into the mid/upper low ... today, look for some very heavy convection to fire as probably another MCV will explode, and may induce some kind of SFC cyclogenesis, however, nothing "tropically-speaking" ... nevertheless, quite interesting...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

SF

Matthew5 · #13 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:50 pm

The one on Alison looked the same? That spin that went back into the convection.

Stormsfury · #14 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:53 pm

Matthew5 wrote:The one on Alison looked the same? That spin that went back into the convection.

Circumstances that developed Allison are quite different ... this system continues to be fed by the mid/upper low (actually, could kind of say two of them working in tandem), whereas Allison, upper level ridging did build over Allison ... problem with this is that another s/w trough from the west will impede on this in the next 48-72 hours ... and there's very little or no window for this to transition ...

SF

Stormsfury · #15 Postby **Stormsfury** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:57 pm

Matthew5 wrote:The one on Alison looked the same? That spin that went back into the convection.

Oh, and what we're seeing is the beginnings of the potential MCV along a triple-point boundary...

SF

Anonymous · #16 Postby **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:04 pm

Stormsfury wrote:
Matthew5 wrote:The one on Alison looked the same? That spin that went back into the convection.

Circumstances that developed Allison are quite different ... this system continues to be fed by the mid/upper low (actually, could kind of say two of them working in tandem), whereas Allison, upper level ridging did build over Allison ... problem with this is that another s/w trough from the west will impede on this in the next 48-72 hours ... and there's very little or no window for this to transition ...

SF

Agree. Like I said yesterday, by the time this starts to transition to a warm-core system...the shortwave will come knocking on its door, southerly shear and all. And the upper low to the west is really stirring up some dry air to the west of it...but at the same time helping to fire up convection by increasing divergence. This isn't a tropical scenario at all and if anything will slow down that transition process.

Still not convinced...

Guest · #17 Postby **Guest** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:06 pm

Really much a do about nothing.

Matthew5 · #18 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:28 pm

I'm sorry for misjudging this for a tropical cyclone. I will make sure when the next area of low pressure forms to just listen to the nhc.

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #19 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:34 pm

It looks like you're seeing a mid-level circulation. There isn't a westerly flow in the low-levels yet. As the other folks mentioned before, this system still has a way to go before any cyclogenesis will occur. By that time, a shortwave trough will be making development difficult. I will say I like the persistance of 93L. It's held up nicely, but it's still gambling against some tough odds.

chadtm80 · #20 Postby **chadtm80** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:36 pm

Matthew5 wrote:I'm sorry for misjudging this for a tropical cyclone. I will make sure when the next area of low pressure forms to just listen to the nhc.

I am going to save this quote ;-)

LLCC now visible on Visible satellite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLCC now visible on Visible satellite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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