Fahrenheit 9/11 sets box office records in NYC

[Brent]

NBC Nightly News did a truth test to this. A lot of stuff made assertions that weren't true, and interviews with stuff that wouldn't be favorable to Michael Moore was left out, and only the stuff that made Republicans look bad was.

The whole Saudi's being flown out after 9/11 is true, HOWEVER, Richard Clarke(lashed out at Bush at the hearings on Sept. 11th) and one of his deputies(Roger Cressey) both said those flights didn't have anyone on them the FBI wanted to interview in the investigation. So there Michael Moore.

[streetsoldier]

What I meant by "Left Coasts", Johnathan, is this; the "glitterati" (stars) and/or the "illuminati" (politicians, academes) fly over the WHOLE of the fruited plain, from LA to NYC to DC and back again.

They see the SAME people, dine together, have "brainstorming" (if you want to call it that) sessions in such "select" company, and have no clue what the "great, wide expanses" think as they fly above them.

They claim that "We, the People" are out of touch...it's the other way around.

[weatherwunder]

I would hope that the American people would not base their vote on a movie. I myself will not let a movie bias how I will vote.

I may not be a fan of Bush, but it is not because of the war in Iraq, and I doubt that 9/11 was his fault.

Both parties play political games, and this is just another fiasco. I can still remember the fiasco of the election count was he was 'elected'.

[WEATHER53]

I think the Bin Laden fly out shortly after 9/11 will ultimately turn out to have more meat on it that WMD. Generally Moore is a cynical entertainer who has the predetermined objective of heckling Bush. Geo. Stepanopolis backed Moore into a corner pretty good with Moore's omissions and he had no counter repsonse. I think showing people at leisure and protraying that as dillatory is wrong and Moore does emanate a pretty storng " I am so smart and am saving all you dumb people from this awful government" and that does not fly for me.

[donsutherland1]

Fahrenheit 9/11: Bradbury's Boiling Point

If one examines recent movie criticism in the newspapers and even some of the commentary here, it appears many have been "prostrated" by this film's "intense heat." Its message is "hot and suffocating... Instead of cooling or refreshing" passions or political understanding, it is "burning and enervating" and its perspective feels like "the breath of a furnace."

In fact, this documentary's temperature has scaled the thermometer to such a height that author Ray Bradbury has reached his boiling point. According to the June 27, 2004 edition of Australia's The Age, "The American author Ray Bradbury has demanded that Michael Moore return the title of his classic novel Fahrenheit 451.

Bradbury, whose science-fiction tome Fahrenheit 451 was published in 1953, blasted Moore, whose politically explosive film Fahrenheit 9/11 opened in North America this weekend, for using the title without permission and asked for an apology and for the film's name to be changed. 'It's not a nice thing he has done,' Bradbury, 83, said. 'My book is known all over the world and that title is my title.'"

Note: Language in the opening paragraph was borrowed from "Hot Weather at Cincinnati," The New York Times, July 20, 1859 which describes a spell of severe heat in that Ohio city.

[donsutherland1]

Mf_dolphin,

It's mainly a work of fiction--pretty bad fiction, if you ask me--and really should not be described as a documentary.

[Lindaloo]

Mf_dolphin,

It's mainly a work of fiction--pretty bad fiction, if you ask me--and really should not be described as a documentary.

I agree!

[stormie_skies]

Actually, it played pretty well in Texas too, at least if my experience was representative at all of what happened. I saw Fahrenheit 911 last night in a sold-out theater in Southeast Houston, and it got a lot of applause and even a standing ovation....in TEXAS of all places!
And it didn't focus much on the connection between 9/11 and Iraq. It covered every complaint that has been made against the Bush administration, from their relationship with the Saudi royals to the cuts in veteran benefits to the "excessive" vacation time.
It was one-sided, no doubt about that ....then again, the right has plenty of one-sided media of their own (think Rush Limbaugh etc). As long as politics are going to be excessively combative, it makes sense that both sides should try to get their digs in ~ otherwise we all end up with a lopsided perception of things.
I wouldn't swallow the message of this movie (or any movie or media) whole without researching it, but it does bring up some viable points. It will be interesting to see how it plays nationwide, and if it opens up any new points of debate.

(waiting to be burned at the stake for this post )

[Rainband]

What I meant by "Left Coasts", Johnathan, is this; the "glitterati" (stars) and/or the "illuminati" (politicians, academes) fly over the WHOLE of the fruited plain, from LA to NYC to DC and back again.

They see the SAME people, dine together, have "brainstorming" (if you want to call it that) sessions in such "select" company, and have no clue what the "great, wide expanses" think as they fly above them.

They claim that "We, the People" are out of touch...it's the other way around.

Gotcha, Greta point

[Guest]

You know, this movie was just an attempt to affect the election outcome. I really thought there was some kind of law barring something about political "games" like this 6 months before the election. I'm going to do a little research and get back to you all on this.
...Jennifer...

This ought to help ya.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/2 ... -9464r.htm

Yes it did help, thanks. I was close, but it's not 6 months, it's 60 days: http://www.hillnews.com/news/062404/moore.aspx
...Jennifer...

[GalvestonDuck]

Danged movie was number 1 at the box office this weekend.

[streetsoldier]

Never fear, AFLAC.,..there aren't that many quiche-and-brie elitists left to pander to Moore's BS.