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#21 Postby Stormchaser16 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:49 am

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#22 Postby Derecho » Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:21 am

Stop using the shear TENDENCY maps as if they were actual SHEAR maps, folks.

No idea why this repeatedly occurs these days, guess because the colors are prettier on the tendency map. It doesn't tell you how much shear there is in a particular location, just how much it changed recently.

Upper level westerly shear was clearly unfavorable for this wave, though the divergence of a shearing trough caused convection yesterday.

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#23 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:40 am

Ola wrote:Just what shear are you talking about? vbh?

Just because something does not develop, it does not mean it has to be shear. There is not hampering shear in that area. It is just that its only a tropical wave, with no llc whatsoever.


Unless the mets I listen to and the discussions I read before I make my forecasts and/or comments are all wrong, there is still strong SWerly shear coming across the Carribean right over the area where the system went poof. Thus there is currently no upper level support for the disturbance to develop. Doesn't mean when it gets further West it won't when it sees better conditions.

Derecho is right folks!! I am seeing this over and over here. Make sure you are seeing the actual shear maps as opposed to the shear tendency maps. Huge diffierence!!
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#24 Postby Wnghs2007 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:00 am

The colors are the shear. Just the lines are the tendency. LOOK. on the side. It shows shear in the colors on the side. Here Ill point it out.


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Look. Over on the right side. It says CURRENT Shear in Knots. Right in the Upper Right corner. It Say Not Tendency. The Lines are Tendency. The colors are the current shear.


Not mean to sound like I am mad or anything. Just correcting you Derecho
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#25 Postby Stormchaser16 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:10 am

Derecho KNOCK IT OFF AND READ THE MAP!!!!!!!!!

The map CLEARLY states that the COLORS are the CURRENT SHEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What dont you understand about this?

Match that up to the map you posted and it is the SAME :grr:
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#26 Postby abajan » Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:23 pm

I was just about to chime in with my 2 cents worth and correct Derecho but I see that 2 posters have already beaten me to it.
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#27 Postby Stormchaser16 » Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:16 pm

Yes sorry, had to beat you 2 it, for some reason every time I post this map Derecho is right there to chime in on it for some reason. It is clear to me, and apparently not to him that this map overlays TENDENCY on CURRENT shear.....

It just ticks me off that people need to bold type their font in retaliation of something that they are clearly wrong about, which is why I have come back with a lot of CAPS lol....

Anyways, you can clearly see the wave has some time before it hits another round of shear.
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#28 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:37 pm

You may be right in talking about that particular map, but you are not totally right about the shear.

I repeat-Unless the mets I listen to and the discussions I read before I make my forecasts and/or comments are all wrong, There is still strong SWerly shear coming across the Carribean right over the area where the system went poof. Thus there is currently no upper level support for the disturbance to develop. Doesn't mean when it gets further West it won't when it sees better conditions. It was very obvious in the visibles that shear was the culprit with this wave. The tops of any convection were being blown ENE. It does not have a long way to go to get to shear. It is/was being sheared. You need to be sure you know what all is being encompassed when you are talking about shear. Notice I said upper level. What levels is that shear map for that you posted?
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