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#981 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:07 pm

WOW. That is some big time rains. and yall have been having flooding problems. Stay safe.
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#982 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:07 pm

I know I know its TWC but they said it never made lanfall just brushed the coast.
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#983 Postby Pebbles » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:08 pm

Looks like a non-landfall from what's being reported on TV ...
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Re: So ... just why Alex caught even us offguard ...

#984 Postby USAwx1 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:08 pm

Stormsfury wrote:Well, simple ... not ONE of us expected this to become a hurricane in its incipient stage, let alone Cat 2. Second, we all basically had to play catchup ... which lends to the old addage, that intensity forecasts are ALWAYS the hardest to predict ...

Alex is a small compact storm very susceptible to subtle changes either for or against it ... yesterday, when the s/w ridge built over top of the system, it responded very quickly with a strong burst of convection as the NE Shear relaxed ... (however, there was ENHANCED divergence or diffluent flow which aided in the development of the convection) ... As the s/w ridge became more established, convection was able to build and wrap around the center in a much more organized fashion, and we also saw, the vertical profiles begin to match up instead of the chaotic mess just 24 hours previous, with low level swirls exiting out of the NNE side of the storm, and the MLC meandering ...

Yesterday afternoon, and evening, during the diurnal mininum, we saw convection fade out somewhat but still enough to allow Alex to hold its own. As the afternoon wore on, another very strong burst of convection occurred, and again, an enhancement was caused by a small jet streak in the RRQ of the trough which placed diffluent flow right over Alex, and allowed for another round of intensification. Southwesterly winds increased aloft, but also, the cyclone also responded by picking up speed yielding lesser amounts of shear. The small size of Alex allowed for pressures to come down fairly quickly (but not in the classification of rapid), and also the high Heat Potential in the Gulf Stream makes Alex - "the storm that seized the window of opportunity to the fullest" ...

SF


Agree, and Awesome discussion
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#985 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:10 pm

Pebbles wrote:Looks like a non-landfall from what's being reported on TV ...



It barely missed landfall by about half a mile. That is how close this one got. WOW. :eek:
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#986 Postby Pebbles » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:12 pm

Wnghs2007 wrote:
Pebbles wrote:Looks like a non-landfall from what's being reported on TV ...



It barely missed landfall by about half a mile. That is how close this one got. WOW. :eek:


That's gotta make some kinda record ...closest non-landfalling hurricane ever...Alex 2004?
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#987 Postby ncweatherwizard » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:14 pm

Bad news. 2:07PM: Major flooding in Hatteras Village...water from sound over the docks in the marina. Men are trying to tie boats down but ropes are being pulled to max...possible structural flooding. Tides 6 feet above normal and about 1 foot over dock. Winds out of the northeast @ hurricane force.
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#988 Postby ncweatherwizard » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:16 pm

No landfall...it's a direct hit.
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#989 Postby tallywx » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:17 pm

More damage reports...

120 p.m.

Hatteras Village BROADCAST MEDIA

78 MPH WIND GUST.


4 FOOT SOUNDSIDE STORM SURGE. WIDESPREAD FLOODING AND
CARS FLOATING.

WIDESPREAD SOUNDSIDE FLOODING. NUMEROUS HOMES FLOODED.

5 FEET OF WATER ON PARTS OF HIGHWAY 12. WIDESPREAD
SOUNDSIDE FLOODING.
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#990 Postby Guest » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:18 pm

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#991 Postby Typhoon_Willie » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:19 pm

Wow! :eek:
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#992 Postby Josephine96 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:20 pm

I thought it may have made landfall.. But apparently not..
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#993 Postby tallywx » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:20 pm

Damage reports corroborate your reports...


120 p.m.

Hatteras Village BROADCAST MEDIA

78 MPH WIND GUST.


4 FOOT SOUNDSIDE STORM SURGE. WIDESPREAD FLOODING AND
CARS FLOATING.

WIDESPREAD SOUNDSIDE FLOODING. NUMEROUS HOMES FLOODED.

5 FEET OF WATER ON PARTS OF HIGHWAY 12. WIDESPREAD
SOUNDSIDE FLOODING.
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#994 Postby GaryOBX » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:20 pm

I'd say Ocracoke so far has gotten the worst of Alex.

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
210 PM EDT TUE AUG 03 2004

..TIME...   ...EVENT...     ...CITY LOCATION...      ...LAT.LON...
..DATE...   ....MAG....     ..COUNTY LOCATION...ST.. ...SOURCE....
            ..REMARKS..


0120 PM     HURRICANE        HATTERAS VILLAGE        35.22N 75.69W
08/03/2004                   OUTER BANKS DARE   NC   BROADCAST MEDIA

            78 MPH WIND GUST.



0140 PM     HURRICANE        OCRACOKE                35.10N 75.98W
08/03/2004                   OUTER BANKS HYDE   NC   BROADCAST MEDIA

            4 FOOT SOUNDSIDE STORM SURGE. WIDESPREAD FLOODING AND
            CARS FLOATING.



0145 PM     HURRICANE        OCRACOKE                35.10N 75.98W
08/03/2004                   OUTER BANKS HYDE   NC   LAW ENFORCEMENT

            WIDESPREAD SOUNDSIDE FLOODING. NUMEROUS HOMES FLOODED.



0200 PM     HURRICANE        OCRACOKE                35.10N 75.98W
08/03/2004                   OUTER BANKS HYDE   NC   BROADCAST MEDIA

            5 FEET OF WATER ON PARTS OF HIGHWAY 12. WIDESPREAD
            SOUNDSIDE FLOODING.

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This afternoon T numbers=Alex,4.5/TD#2 2.0

#995 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:26 pm

03/1745 UTC 13.4N 55.1W T2.0/2.0 02 -- Atlantic Ocean
03/1745 UTC 35.3N 75.2W T4.5/4.5 ALEX -- Atlantic Ocean

In terms of the dvorak numbers of sat estimates no changes from this morning.
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#996 Postby lilbump3000 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:28 pm

Well the atlantic one changed from earlier because it was 1.5/2.0 now its 2.0/2.0
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#997 Postby Josephine96 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:28 pm

Thanks Luis :)
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#998 Postby HurricaneGirl » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:30 pm

Thanks for the updates Gary! 8-)
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#999 Postby soonertwister » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:37 pm

MIA_canetrakker wrote:Gettting nailed in Hatteras.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/KHSE.html


No report from Hatteras in over two hours, just like with the Diamond Shoals buoy (41025). Looks like all the weather instruments have been put out of service.
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#1000 Postby mf_dolphin » Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:37 pm

Nothing like reporting from the scene! Thanks for the updates. :-)
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