4:15 PM Special tropical update on TS Bonnie and TD#3

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4:15 PM Special tropical update on TS Bonnie and TD#3

#1 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:14 pm

About the system in the SE GOM recon has found a very tight circulation and west winds making this a tropical storm.It is moving WNW at about 10 mph and the conditions favor strentgening slowly so all interests in the Gulf Coast must watch it's progress.The models show this system intensifing into a hurricane but it is too early to say with confidence that it will be one.About the future track there is uncertainty about it because many factors may come into play such as troughs and ridges so again all the folks who live in the Gulf Coast keep watching the progress of it.

TD#3 has formed this afternoon as it moved thru the windward islands.A gust of 53 mph in Barbados combined with WSW winds in Trinidad was the cause for the upgrade.This system has the potential to be a hurricane in 5 days as conditions appear favorable for this system to get stronger.As for the track is concerned it is moving 280 west to westnorthwestward at around 22 mph.No major troughs are forecast to deviate this TD more to the north as a ridge to the north will make it not gain plenty of latitud.All interests in the eastern and central caribbean must watch the progress of TD#3 and watches and warnings will surely be up soon for some portions of the central caribbean islands such as Hispanola and Jamaica.

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Forecaster=Luis Martinez (Cycloneye)
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#2 Postby HurricaneGirl » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:20 pm

:eek: Holy Crap!!
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This will be Bonnie, not TD2

#3 Postby tw861 » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:25 pm

This will be Bonnie, not TD2. Recon finds 55kt surface winds.
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#4 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:36 pm

Are you saying then that we have TS Bonnie already???
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#5 Postby Guest » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:38 pm

ChaserUK wrote:Are you saying then that we have TS Bonnie already???

yes sir.
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#6 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:38 pm

ChaserUK wrote:Are you saying then that we have TS Bonnie already???


Yes Chaser officially Bonnie has formed.
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#7 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:41 pm

:eek: :eek: Eeek! Just checked out the latest sat and have to say well impressed with the circulation already. Visually you can tell this is greater than 35mph!
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#8 Postby Guest » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:43 pm

I have an idea that TPC has jumped the gun here....

THIS is according to TPC a TS
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/GMEX/VIS/20.jpg


BUT the system in SE Caribbean is NOT?
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/.../recentvis.html


okay...sure...
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#9 Postby goodlife » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:45 pm

wow..so it's a Tropical Storm already...
and the other system out in the Caribbean looks pretty impressive too!
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#10 Postby chadtm80 » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:46 pm

DT wrote:I have an idea that TPC has jumped the gun here....

THIS is according to TPC a TS
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/GMEX/VIS/20.jpg


BUT the system in SE Caribbean is NOT?
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/.../recentvis.html


okay...sure...

Recon dosent Lie :-)
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#11 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:48 pm

Recon data of 55 kts is sufficient.
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#12 Postby rbaker » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:59 pm

granted its not your classic ts, but its one nevertheless. Whether this becomes a hurricane,it has some organizing to do.
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#13 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:02 pm

Blimey I got so confused! I thought TD3 was now TS Bonnie but now I realise that TD2 is TS Bonnie. Sorry, must have been the excitement and too much caffeine! Clearly TS Bonnie is out of the question for a chase but TD3, mmmmm, that might be a better prospect.
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#14 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:04 pm

Yes chaser TD#3 will be your system to watch as it may be a major hurricane down the road if it gets all the ideal conditions.
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#15 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:07 pm

:oops: :oops:

Taking some valium now - be alright in a sec...
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#16 Postby goodlife » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:09 pm

So how much strengthening are they expecting with Bonnie?
Two systems at one time is too daggone much! lol
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#17 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:13 pm

NHC seem to think that Bonnie will just be a TS when it reaches somewhere near the FL Panhandle. They do not seem to think it will develop that much do they? TD3 is a different story. Does anyone know if I will need a visa for Cuba?
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#18 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:24 pm

Like I said in another thread, I'm not sure that the 55 kts estimated wasn't the result of the outflow boundary on the northern front of the cyclone, and second, that the wind wasn't observed in severe convection.

I don't doubt that it is a tropical storm, however ...
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#19 Postby Air Force Met » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:52 pm

Stormsfury wrote:Like I said in another thread, I'm not sure that the 55 kts estimated wasn't the result of the outflow boundary on the northern front of the cyclone, and second, that the wind wasn't observed in severe convection.

I don't doubt that it is a tropical storm, however ...


The wind was in the SE quad. But...I don't doubt it was 56 kts and don't think it was an outflow boundry. THe pressure gradient is very steep. A low of 1007mb and 1014mb just 30 miles away. That's steep enough to produce 56 kts easily.
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#20 Postby Andrew92 » Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:28 pm

goodlife wrote:So how much strengthening are they expecting with Bonnie?
Two systems at one time is too daggone much! lol


Then how did you get by in August 1995 and September 1998? Four storms at some point in both of those months, including all four of 'em being hurricanes in '98. :wink:

I don't think it's impossible for Bonnie to become a hurricane, but I don't see it happening, but I'll be watching it along with, of course, TD #3, which I fully believe will become Charley. I'd be really surprised, right now, if it doesn't become a hurricane even (and I don't say that too often, so enjoy it), but of course, things can change for the unexpected, too.

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