This should Put the Closed Low Debate to Rest

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This should Put the Closed Low Debate to Rest

#1 Postby MWatkins » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:11 pm

Sorry...new thread due to info below...

URNT12 KNHC 101947
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 10/1947Z
B. 15 DEG 11 MIN N
70 DEG 27 MIN W
C. NA
D. 35 KT
E. 303 DEG 92 NM
F. 068 DEG 42 KT
G. 302 DEG 084 NM
H. EXTRAP 999 MB
I. 25 C/ 292 M
J. 26 C/ 287 M
K. 25 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 1234 /01
O. .1/2 NM
P. AF966 0103A CHARLEY OB 16
MAX FL WIND 42 KT NW QUAD 1917Z SLP EXTRAP FROM 1500FT.

Pressure pretty low to worry about the circ opening up anytime soon.

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#2 Postby kevin » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:12 pm

Proof that eye candy isn't all its cracked up to be, eh?
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#3 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:12 pm

YES!!!! YES!!!! YES!!! YES!!!!! YES!!!!!! :)
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#4 Postby Rainband » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:12 pm

:eek:
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#5 Postby Rainband » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:13 pm

Damn if he slows down. RUTT RO RELROY!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#6 Postby kevin » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:13 pm

wrong storm, thought the recon was from bonnie, duhr.
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#7 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:15 pm

Ok Mike yes new thread for this development.So no open wave but lower pressure.
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#8 Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:15 pm

Hmmm.......Hmmmmmmm...........Hmmmmmmmmmmm........
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#9 Postby Stormsfury » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:16 pm

Um, actually NOT surprised here ... the outflow boundaries that have blasted out of the bands came from the OUTER bands and are blowing away ... there are NO outflow boundaries even close to the circ. center, and the cyclone has free run of inflow from the south ...

Bonnie, on the other hand ... well, she's exposing herself...
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#10 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:16 pm

999 mb can sustain 60-65 mph winds. I think they will find stronger winds.
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#11 Postby kevin » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:16 pm

Wrong storm. =D Oops.
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#12 Postby Rainband » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:17 pm

kevin wrote:Wrong storm. =D Oops.
HUH??
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#13 Postby stormernie » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:19 pm

Mike it seems to me that Charley may be heading on a wnw-nw course if this verifies then I think the threat to Fla and the Keys increases.

Also, once be passes 70 W which is well on its way than intensification may commence because of better inflow from the South.

Please let me know what you think

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#14 Postby OtherHD » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:20 pm

Stormsfury wrote:Um, actually NOT surprised here ... the outflow boundaries that have blasted out of the bands came from the OUTER bands and are blowing away ... there are NO outflow boundaries even close to the circ. center, and the cyclone has free run of inflow from the south ...

Bonnie, on the other hand ... well, she's exposing herself...


Once the outer convection weakens could that cause more energy to be focused closer to the center?
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#15 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:22 pm

Yes HD that is correct more energy will be focused near the center.
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#16 Postby Matthew5 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:22 pm

Yes thats what happen last night, when the western Band weaken. The central core is being sucked clean at the moment but later expect this could come together.
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#17 Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:24 pm

Maybe...
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#18 Postby HurricaneBill » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:25 pm

Brent wrote:YES!!!! YES!!!! YES!!! YES!!!!! YES!!!!!! :)


Somebody's been using Clairol Herbal Essences. :lol:
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#19 Postby Andrew92 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:27 pm

I saw a visible image and I couldn't help but notice that there DID appear to be a well-defined center, outflow boundaries notwithstanding. I believe this thing will still become a hurricane before all is said and done.

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#20 Postby Stormsfury » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:33 pm

OtherHD wrote:
Stormsfury wrote:Um, actually NOT surprised here ... the outflow boundaries that have blasted out of the bands came from the OUTER bands and are blowing away ... there are NO outflow boundaries even close to the circ. center, and the cyclone has free run of inflow from the south ...

Bonnie, on the other hand ... well, she's exposing herself...


Once the outer convection weakens could that cause more energy to be focused closer to the center?


Yeah ... call it a cleansing of the system ...

Again, with such a large envelope of Charley, I didn't expect this thing to immediately take off, BUT once it slowly does, things will begin to snowball, and possibly quite rapidly when things come together ... that's a BIG concern ...
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