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Weathercasters saying about Bonnie and Charley in your area?

#1 Postby pavelbure224 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:39 pm

Bryan Norcross seems more concerned for the keys and So Fl then he did last night and also said the models might need to be shifted more to the east.
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#2 Postby hurricanemike » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:49 pm

Tim Deegan of First Coast News is saying Charley is going to pass very close Sunday. I cant wait. It kinda sux that I work all weekend :(
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#3 Postby Guest » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:53 pm

Bryan Norcross & Roland Steadham both alluded to that NHC may shift the track even further east making landfall over South Fla.

Bill Kamal doesnt seem that concerned even though the track shifted east almost 200 miles.

I dont even watch Don Noe.
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#4 Postby pavelbure224 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:57 pm

Don Noe even seems concerned and he is never concernd about any hurricane
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#5 Postby Hyperstorm » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:20 pm

MIA_canetrakker wrote:Bryan Norcross & Roland Steadham both alluded to that NHC may shift the track even further east making landfall over South Fla.

Bill Kamal doesnt seem that concerned even though the track shifted east almost 200 miles.

I dont even watch Don Noe.


If NHC shifts the track to the right, this could become a SIGNIFICANT player for the ENTIRE east coast.

If it strikes South Florida as a Cat. 2 hurricane (conservative), it could regenerate off the coast of Cape Canaveral possibly becoming a Major Hurricane. It will head toward NC and later toward NEW ENGLAND as a Cat 1-2.

This could be a POTENTIAL DISASTER IN THE MAKING. I'm not over-exaggerating here. If this thing strikes south Florida....we still don't know the real definition of a hurricane.
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#6 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:22 pm

Our local met just covered all the bases with Bonnie: "It may become a hurricane or fizzle out" LOL

They have been mentioning Charley and are advising anyone headed to the Florida Peninsula to monitor it closely.
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#7 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:23 pm

MIA_canetrakker wrote:Bryan Norcross & Roland Steadham both alluded to that NHC may shift the track even further east making landfall over South Fla.

Bill Kamal doesnt seem that concerned even though the track shifted east almost 200 miles.

I dont even watch Don Noe.


This is the same Bill Kamal that got busted in Fort Lauderdale a few months for a DUI which I believe was his second. Maybe he was a little tipsy because the conservative Roland Steadham was all over this thing with some concern.
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#8 Postby Ground_Zero_92 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:40 pm

I heard the same thing jlauderdal. Remember what I had told you about having a bad feeling about this system and South Florida? I hope my gut was wrong.
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#9 Postby Nancy » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:46 pm

West Palm Beach guys warn us to watch carefully. Charley will bring us rain at the least, but could be much worse if the track moves east. I was planning to drive to Hudson, FL (just north of Tarpon Springs) to visit my mother this coming Sunday, so I'm watching this one.
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#10 Postby goodlife » Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:22 pm

This is what our local weather guy posted on the forums at wwl

Bonnie:

The bottom line is, she does not appear at the present time to present much of a threat to our area. This system continues to look very poor on the visible images this afternoon. There is clearly NE shear inhibiting its development. The turn to the north has already started and it looks as though it may be moving a little east of north. However, there is a very tight circulation and convection keeps firing around it. All models continue to show a NE movement taking place carrying Bonnie toward the FL panhandle. As the shear lessens a bit, we could see some strengthening out of her before SW shear takes over and pushes her NE with the approaching upper trough. At the most, she could reach minimal hurricane status, but my gut feeling is that she remains a TS making landfall somewhere near the big bend area in FL. Since she is such a compact storm, effects will be minimal. Any effects from this storm at all will likely only be felt in lower Plaquemines Parish - the part of LA closest to the center. However, we will continue to monitor for any possible changes in this track. Keep in mind the change would have to be great for any impact to New Orleans at all - something not very likely to happen.

Charlie: This is the one we really need to watch. Charlie continues to get better organized this afternoon. On the visible images I have noticed a huge flare up near the center the past couple hours. It's likely Charlie will become a hurricane and enter the Gulf this weekend. In fact, this flare up may be the beginning of an intensification period. Charlie is moving very fast, which is good news for us. The faster this system moves, the more likely it is to be picked up by the trough sooner rather than later which means a track more toward FL. And right now, that looks like the most likely path and most of the models are in agreement about that. However, if Charlie should really start to intensify and slow down, that would mean a path more west of NHC's current track because the ridge would have time to build back in a bit with the trough not having as great of an impact. A lot of it will depend on how quickly Charlie gets stronger and how this will impact his forward speed. There are a lot of variables here and we are certainly not out of the woods yet with this one. But as of now, I am encouraged by the latest computer model runs I am seeing.

So far, it looks like this strange pattern in place with an abundance of summer cold fronts may serve to help us with the tropics by steering these early systems east of us. But do not let your guard down - like I mentioned there a lot of unknown variables here which could change things. However, as of right now I am cautiously optimistic.

John Gumm
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#11 Postby pavelbure224 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:07 pm

Bryan Norcross said the models are still saying that Charley will be too close for comfort and some type of watch might need to go out tomorrow morning for the Keys
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#12 Postby Colin » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:08 pm

They won't say anything here until Thursday night, when the rain starts. LOL
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#13 Postby pavelbure224 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:08 pm

lol
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#14 Postby stormchazer » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:18 pm

ON THURSDAY THINGS GET A BIT COMPLICATED AS TROPICAL CYCLONE BONNIE
MOVES N-NEWD OVER THE GULF. LATEST TPC TRACK AS WELL AS MOST MODEL
DATA KEEPS BONNIE WELL TO THE WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA...TRACKING IT
TOWARD THE WESTERN PANHANDLE.(FOR THE LATEST INFO ON BONNIE SEE THE
LATEST TPC ADVISORIES) EVEN THOUGH THE LATEST TPC TRACK KEEPS BONNIE
TO OUR WEST AND NORTHWEST...ABUNDANT TROPICAL MOISTURE ASSOCIATED
WITH IT WILL INCREASE RAIN CHANCES ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA...
ESPECIALLY MY NORTHERN MOST ZONES. GIVEN THIS HAVE INCREASED POPS
INTO THE LIKELY RANGE FROM HERNANDO-SUMTER NORTH ON THURSDAY...WITH
50% ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST AREA. WITH MOST OF WEST
CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA QUITE SATURATED FROM PREVIOUS HEAVY
RAINS...ANY ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAIN WILL LIKELY LEAD TO MORE FLOODING
PROBLEMS...SO A FLOOD WATCH MAY BE NEEDED IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
GIVEN THE EXPECTED INCREASE IN CLOUDS AND PRECIP HAVE GONE WITH THE
LOWER MAX TEMPS DEPICTED BY THE MAV GUIDANCE WITH READINGS IN THE MID
TO UPPER 80S EXPECTED FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. IN ADDITION TO RAIN HAVE
BUMP UP WINDS SOME FOR MY CENTRAL AND NORTHERN ZONES ON THURSDAY
DEPICTING S-SWLY WINDS IN THE 15-20 MPH RANGE. AS WITH ANY TROPICAL
SYSTEM WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF BONNIE OVER
THE NEXT FEW DAYS...AND IF NEEDED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FORECAST WILL BE
MADE...SO STAY TUNED.

.LONG TERM (THU NIGHT - TUE)...COMPLEX FORECAST WITH POSSIBILITY OF
TWO TROPICAL SYSTEMS IMPACTING THE AREA DURING THE PERIOD. TPC
FORECAST HAS BONNIE EXITING OFF INTO THE CAROLINAS THU NIGHT LEAVING
SOME RESIDUAL WINDS AND A BETTER CHANCE OF PRECIP UP NORTH. THEN
CHARLIE QUICKLY MOVES IN FOR THE WEEKEND. LATEST TPC GUIDANCE KEEPS
THE STORM 200 TO 300 NM AWAY FROM THE COAST...WITH THE CAVEAT OF A
LARGE ERROR ENVELOPE FOR LONG RANGE FORECASTS. WILL PULL WIND SPEEDS
UP TO NEAR 20 KTS SAT NIGHT INTO SUN...WHICH IS WELL BELOW MODEL
GUIDANCE...BUT A GOOD BLEND WITH PREVIOUS FORECAST.

RAIN WILL BE A PROBLEM SHOULD EITHER OR BOTH STORMS SIGNIFICANTLY
AFFECT THE AREA. RECORD RAINFALL FOR THE FIRST 10 DAYS OF AUGUST HAS
ALREADY FALLEN IN SOME AREAS...SO WILL BE READY TO JUMP ON FLOOD
WATCH SHUD BANDING SET UP WITH EITHER SYSTEM.
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#15 Postby tracyz » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:27 pm

Nancy...I am right around the corner from you. Tonight John Matthews looked very disturbed which is unusual from him. He said that we need to watch this one closely!
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#16 Postby pavelbure224 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:37 pm

3 out of the 4 news stations in south fl will be starting hourly updates on charley starting tomorrow morning
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#17 Postby Nancy » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:45 pm

I agree, Tracy. John Matthews' hurricane forecasts are usually very conservative, but tonight he looked concerned.
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#18 Postby Typhoon_Willie » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:50 pm

Hello Nancy and Tracyz I am Typhoon_Willie and also live in the same neck of the woods! I did not see John's forecast but I know that he is typically conservative when it comes to this. So when he is concerned then I get concerned as well!
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#19 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:52 pm

I talk personally with my local Spanish Meteorologist, John Morales, from Telemundo Channel 51, and he was a little more concerned tonight that what he was last night. But still he said that we should continue to watch very carefully this system and at least strong rain showers should affect us. He was more concerned with the keys.
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#20 Postby chris_fit » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:08 am

As of noon...

Channel 7 WWSB In Sarasota says "Get Ready"
Channel 13 FOX In Tampa says "Will hit Ft Myers, stay tunned"
Channel 8 WFLA in Tampa says "Will hit Between Venice & Ft Myers"


~Chris
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