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#2201 Postby OtherHD » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:44 am

Huh? What is this? Did Trek make a post??
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#2202 Postby weatherlover427 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:45 am

Wnghs2007 wrote:
bahamaswx wrote:Open or not...I never said it was closed...it appears your "dry air intrusion" is an eye after all.



No its an eye/dry air intrusion. I said if it was an eye it was a very disorgainized one like this is at the moment. Again. It looks like a heart not like an eye.


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Key word: IF.

And it is; the recon / vortex message confirms this.
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#2203 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:46 am

TrekkerCC wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:
OtherHD wrote:KC, check the vortex message :)



Yep Like I thought. Open South. Very Open at that.


Not what you said earlier...I believe you said, "No eye. even worse looking dudes. Its not an eye. Its a dry air intrusion and if its even sort of like an eye it is very disorgaized and not even close to being worthy of being called a real eye. So sorry you are mistaken."

Anyone that had looked at a satellite loop for one second would notice it was not a "dry air intrusion." The vortex message settles it.

-Trek


It is. I have the water vapor right here. Its an eye/Dry air intrusion

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As you can see the little black stripe heading toward your "eye" which is sucking in the dry air so it is a dry air intrusion. And it is hardly worth being called and eye.
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#2204 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:48 am

At Midnight Eastern, one of the local meteorologists (on the Orlando Fox Affilate, WOFL-TV 35) said that it was already tightening up, right off the Flagler county coast, specifically not too far north up from Daytona Beach... off of Palm Coast.
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#2205 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:49 am

Joshua21Young wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:
bahamaswx wrote:Open or not...I never said it was closed...it appears your "dry air intrusion" is an eye after all.



No its an eye/dry air intrusion. I said if it was an eye it was a very disorgainized one like this is at the moment. Again. It looks like a heart not like an eye.


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Key word: IF.

And it is; the recon / vortex message confirms this.



Yep there you go, you have your very disorgainized, open, and barely and eye that I have ever seen in my whole entire life.
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#2206 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:49 am

ColdFront77 wrote:At Midnight Eastern, one of the local meteorologists (on the Orlando Fox Affilate, WOFL-TV 35) said that it was already tightening up, right off the Flagler county coast, specifically not too far north up from Daytona Beach... off of Palm Coast.


This is not tight at all:

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#2207 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:50 am

Wnghs2007 wrote:As you can see the little black stripe heading toward your "eye" which is sucking in the dry air so it is a dry air intrusion. And it is hardly worth being called and eye.

It still remains to be seen if that dry air wedges into the geometric center of the convection.
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#2208 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:52 am

First of all... it is almost 4:00 AM versus Midnight and second of all disorganization now doesn't necessarily mean it will continue to be disorganized while staying offshore in the warm waters of the extreme eastern Atlantic.

This system continued to be very formidable across approximately 210 miles of Florida... from the Port Charlotte area to Palm Coast.
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#2209 Postby weatherlover427 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:52 am

I will admit it's not perfectly circular. There is no denying that.

However; the fact remains that it is still an eye; there is still time for it to reorganize and strengthen (remember what happened about 18 hours ago); so anything could change...
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#2210 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:54 am

ColdFront77 wrote:First of all... it is almost 4:00 AM versus Midnight and second of all disorganization now doesn't necessarily mean it will continue to be disorganized while staying offshore in the warm waters of the extreme eastern Atlantic.

This system continued to be very formidable across approximately 210 miles of Florida... from the Port Charlotte area to Palm Coast.



You mean SUB 80 degree waters that it will stay in. It will have to go atleast 50 miles further east to reach the warm gulf stream

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#2211 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:55 am

I obviously wasn't literally referring to those water temperatures off the southeast coast.

The overall forecast was for some strengthening. Sorry for mentioning something indicated by professional at NHC. :)

DATA FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT CHARLEY IS STILL A HURRICANE AFTER MOVING ACROSS FLORIDA. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 85 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE TODAY AS THE CENTER MOVES OVER WARM WATER.
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#2212 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:56 am

Joshua21Young wrote:
However; the fact remains that it is still an eye; there is still time for it to reorganize and strengthen (remember what happened about 18 hours ago); so anything could change...



Yes. You are so totally correct on that. IT just has to PULL......arghhhhhhhhh. Pullllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!! Itself together :lol: :lol: :lol: :blowup:
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#2213 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:58 am

Tropical systems can hold there own and even developed a bit in 78 to 80 degree sea surface water.
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#2214 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:58 am

ColdFront77 wrote:I obviously wasn't literally referring to those water temperatures off the southeast coast.

The overall forecast was for some strengthening. Sorry for mentioning something indicated by professional at NHC. :)

DATA FROM A RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT CHARLEY IS STILL A HURRICANE AFTER MOVING ACROSS FLORIDA. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 85 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE TODAY AS THE CENTER MOVES OVER WARM WATER.


If it hits those "Warm Waters" The most landfall it would make would be in NC possibly only Cape Hatteras
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#2215 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:00 am

Sure. Open low, that can close, but isn't expected to develop much after a brief chance of intensification on it's way up the Mid-Atlantic into New England.
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#2216 Postby Pebbles » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:00 am

*quadruples the batch of BBQ crow* Have no idea how this will turn out..but think it will be needed.
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#2217 Postby bahamaswx » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:02 am

Wnghs2007 wrote:So those are the dimentions of the eye eh???????


12*40=480*30=WOW 14,400 sq. mile eye. Shesh


The tilt is 120degrees. That's not a measure of distance.

It's 40nm long by 30nm wide, tilted WNW-ESE.
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#2218 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:04 am

bahamaswx wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:So those are the dimentions of the eye eh???????


12*40=480*30=WOW 14,400 sq. mile eye. Shesh


The tilt is 120degrees. That's not a measure of distance.

It's 40nm long by 30nm wide, tilted WNW-ESE.



LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS WRONG THERe> HEHE :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#2219 Postby Guest » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:10 am

children, stop playing with those models and go do your chores.
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#2220 Postby southerngale » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:47 am

TrekkerCC wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:
OtherHD wrote:KC, check the vortex message :)



Yep Like I thought. Open South. Very Open at that.


Not what you said earlier...I believe you said, "No eye. even worse looking dudes. Its not an eye. Its a dry air intrusion and if its even sort of like an eye it is very disorgaized and not even close to being worthy of being called a real eye. So sorry you are mistaken."

Anyone that had looked at a satellite loop for one second would notice it was not a "dry air intrusion." The vortex message settles it.

-Trek


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Who is this imposter who has taken over Trek's computer and posted on the message board?
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