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Should Paul Hamm have to share his gold medal?

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#1 Postby bfez1 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:13 pm

The International Gymnastics Federation acknowledged Saturday that a scoring error wrongly gave Paul Hamm the gold in the men's all-around over Yang Tae-young of South Korea. Though FIG says it cannot change the results, the South Koreans plan to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in hopes of getting a duplicate gold medal.

Hamm won the gold Wednesday after judges incorrectly scored Yang Tae-young’s parallel bars routine, failing to give the South Korean enough points for the level of difficulty, known as the start value. Yang ended up with the bronze, and his country’s Olympic committee is appealing the results.
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#2 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:18 pm

A tape review also revealed that the Korean should have had an additional .2 deduction for his parallel bar routine. Easy come easy go. :-)
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#3 Postby bfez1 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:24 pm

mf_dolphin wrote:A tape review also revealed that the Korean should have had an additional .2 deduction for his parallel bar routine. Easy come easy go. :-)


I never heard that, that would change everything. :)
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#4 Postby Stephanie » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:58 pm

I just saw that about the Korean in Don's post. Everything evens out in the end. The judges shouldn't have assigned the wrong value, but how many other contests in the past has add errors like these? PROBABLY ALL!
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#5 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:15 pm

Stephanie wrote:I just saw that about the Korean in Don's post. Everything evens out in the end. The judges shouldn't have assigned the wrong value, but how many other contests in the past has add errors like these? PROBABLY ALL!


Just like the athletes that make "mistakes" the judges are also human. I do believe that it did even out in the end and the correct decision has been made. It is sad that others can't take life as it comes and deal with it. Strange how they haven't mentioned the other judging problems that would keep the decision just like it is.
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#6 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:17 pm

If Yang Tae-young won Bronze, the appeal should be for Silver, you can't just ask for Gold because someone else was even better than Yang
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#7 Postby pojo » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:45 pm

the 3 judges have been suspended. South Korea is trying to have the dual gold medal winner with Young and Hamm.
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#8 Postby Stephanie » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:44 pm

vbhoutex wrote:
Stephanie wrote:I just saw that about the Korean in Don's post. Everything evens out in the end. The judges shouldn't have assigned the wrong value, but how many other contests in the past has add errors like these? PROBABLY ALL!


Just like the athletes that make "mistakes" the judges are also human. I do believe that it did even out in the end and the correct decision has been made. It is sad that others can't take life as it comes and deal with it. Strange how they haven't mentioned the other judging problems that would keep the decision just like it is.


Absolutely! Like Shannon said, they did suspend those three judges, so they were on top of the situation immediately.
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#9 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:04 pm

Were the judges French?

Remember Jamie Sale and David Pelletier sharing the gold with Elena and Anton?
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#10 Postby wx247 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:48 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:Were the judges French?

Remember Jamie Sale and David Pelletier sharing the gold with Elena and Anton?


:lol: Funny Duck, but the problem wasn't necessarily with the French. The Russian head judge was being sneaky and conniving.

Although, this is different. These appear to be honest mistakes.
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#11 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:27 pm

wx247 wrote:
GalvestonDuck wrote:Were the judges French?

Remember Jamie Sale and David Pelletier sharing the gold with Elena and Anton?


:lol: Funny Duck, but the problem wasn't necessarily with the French. The Russian head judge was being sneaky and conniving.

Although, this is different. These appear to be honest mistakes.


True. Guess I should have also said that I voted yes...because medals have been shared in the past and, if there truly was an error that could have given the South Korean the gold, then why not give him one also without stripping Hamm of his?

At least some people are given medals for a good reason...and not to be thrown over a fence. :)
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#12 Postby Brent » Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:38 pm

No, he shouldn't have to share the medal. It was the judges' fault, not his. 8-)
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#13 Postby NWIASpotter » Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:36 pm

It wasn't a judges conspiracy sort of think like last time. These were honest mistakes made, which I'm sure happen more often then what is told. He shouldn't have to share the gold because of another persons mistake.
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#14 Postby JQ Public » Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:37 pm

It should be shared. He didn't win. The judges counted incorrectly.
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