Professional mets--outflow channels

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
wjs3
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 633
Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:57 am

Professional mets--outflow channels

#1 Postby wjs3 » Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:01 am

Help me....

Many of us on the board know that outflow helps a tropical cyclone develop...and read a lot about outflow in TPC discussions.

Here's my question--what's the difference between outflow and an outflow channel?

I believe the 5 PM TPC discussion on Frances described an outflow channel, and Mwatkins, in one of his posts, described an outflow channel pumping the ridge north of Frances. (Mwatkins, can you help? Love your posts!)

What's the differecen between outflow and an outflow channel? I get that outflow can pump a ridge, but how does and outflow channel change/enhance that? What should we look for on sattelite (WV? IR?) to identify an outflow channel vsoutflow, and what does it mean?

Thanks!

WJS
0 likes   

ericinmia
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1573
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:15 pm
Location: Miami Lakes, FL

#2 Postby ericinmia » Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:06 am

I am no met. however i believe this may help with your question.

As the hurricane sucks in the wet/moist warm air from the sea surface, it expels it dry and colder through the eye and out through the whispy bands you see surrounding a healthy hurricane. Sometimes this expelation of air is fed straight into a high to the north of the storm, thus intensifying the high and helping the high remain on track just north of the hurricane.

hope that is of some good...
-Eric
0 likes   

wjs3
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 633
Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:57 am

#3 Postby wjs3 » Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:11 am

Appreciate yourt reply.

I understand what you describe as basic Tropical cyclone structure--inflow at the lower levels, outflow at the higher levels. I guess my question is specifically why today we started hearing about outflow channels--rather than just garden variety outlflow--on Frances, and what difference there is, if any, between outflow as you describe it and an otflow channel.

Thanks!
0 likes   

ericinmia
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1573
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:15 pm
Location: Miami Lakes, FL

#4 Postby ericinmia » Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:16 am

As the storm gets closer to the high and begins to ride its lower boundary, because of this close relationship the high begins to feed off the storm. When storms are casually crossing the atlantic after coming off the coast of africa, they generally are not directly associated with, or connected to a high.

When the storm is father away from the high, its outflow generally is dispersed evenly in all directions, however as it gets very close to a building high, the outflow becomes more channeled toward the high.

Sorry its late, and i'm having trouble using the brain. The good explenation and vocabulary in there is done for the night. :(
-Eric
0 likes   

User avatar
Stormsfury
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10549
Age: 53
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:27 pm
Location: Summerville, SC

#5 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:23 am

In Isabel last year, before the transition to Isabel becoming an annular hurricane, it had a very strong outflow channel on the southern/SW'ern side (the outflow channel was greater than 50 kts) which allowed the hurricane to vent itself, very efficiently ...

SF
0 likes   

wjs3
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 633
Joined: Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:57 am

#6 Postby wjs3 » Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:14 am

Ericinmia

Got it now. Sorry I didn't understand earlier. I think I was the one too tired to make any sense!

To make sure I understand...an outflow channel is a connection to a nearby surface high--at phases in a TC's life, it can have outlow evenly in all quadrants--but asit it becomes associated with a building suface ridge, it actually can hav particularly good outflow right to that ridge helping it build...and that's an outflow channel.

Right?

Thanks for helping me with my curiosity!
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 264 guests