Discussion 11 AM=Latest track for landfall near Vero Beach

[cycloneye]

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** WTNT41 KNHC 021435 ***
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HURRICANE FRANCES DISCUSSION NUMBER 35
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT THU SEP 02 2004

THE HURRICANE REMAINS VERY WELL-ORGANIZED AND SATELLITE IMAGES
DEPICT A DISTINCT EYE AND EXCELLENT OUTFLOW. DVORAK INTENSITY
ESTIMATES ARE 127 KNOTS AND THIS IS IN AGREEMENT WITH EARLIER
RECONNAISSANCE PLANE MEASUREMENTS. INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS AT 125
KNOTS. ANOTHER AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WILL CHECK THE
INTENSITY SOON. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY ARE EXPECTED BEFORE
LANDFALL BUT FRANCES IS EXPECTED TO REACH THE COAST AS A MAJOR
HURRICANE.

THE MOST INTERESTING ASPECT THIS MORNING IS THAT THE NATIONAL
WEATHER SERVICE GLOBAL FORECAST SYSTEM...GFS...AND GFDL MODELS HAVE
SHIFTED THEIR TRACKS A LITTLE TO THE WEST AND ARE NOW IN BETTER
AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER DYNAMICAL MODELS. NOW THAT THE RELIABLE
GFS AND GFDL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER MODELS...THE
CONFIDENCE IN THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS HIGHER. FRANCES IS MOVING
TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR 295 DEGREES AT 11 KNOTS AROUND THE
PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. ALL MODELS ARE HOLDING THE
RIDGE STRONG AND LONG ENOUGH TO KEEP THE HURRICANE ON A
WEST-NORTHWEST TO NORTHWEST TRACK WITH A DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED.
THIS TRACK WOULD BRING THE CORE OF THE HURRICANE NEAR THE EAST
COAST OF FLORIDA IN ABOUT 48 HOURS OR SO. BECAUSE FRANCES HAS A
LARGE WIND FIELD AND THE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO
REACH THE COAST MUCH EARLIER THAN THE EYE...A HURRICANE WARNING HAS
BEEN ISSUED FOR THE PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA EAST COAST TO ALLOW
SUFFICIENT TIME FOR PREPARATIONS.

FORECASTER AVILA

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 02/1500Z 23.4N 73.9W 125 KT
12HR VT 03/0000Z 24.3N 75.4W 125 KT
24HR VT 03/1200Z 25.5N 77.2W 125 KT
36HR VT 04/0000Z 26.4N 78.5W 125 KT
48HR VT 04/1200Z 27.0N 79.7W 125 KT
72HR VT 05/1200Z 28.5N 82.0W 70 KT...INLAND
96HR VT 06/1200Z 30.5N 84.5W 30 KT...INLAND
120HR VT 07/1200Z 34.0N 86.5W 25 KT...INLAND

[cycloneye]

But of course dont take this latest track as a given because changes will happen to more right or more left.

[Rainband]

The landfall track really doesn't matter being this is such a large storm

[cycloneye]

Yes Johnnathan the line is only where the eye moves but the whole system is what all the people there has to watch.

[Rainband]

Man, I hate not knowing what is going to happen

[Steve Cosby]

And...

If I'm reading the latest advisory correctly, the 64KT+ winds will be across a 105-115 nm (121-132 miles). The eye itself is 25 nm (29 miles) wide.

I think that is something that is almost always missed when "landfall" is discussed.

[KBBOCA]

Here's a site with links to wind cone given current forecast track:

http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/3_hurr.html

[9:48]

Reliable GFS and GFDL?

Someone order 'ol Lixion some jumbo shrimp.

[Steve Cosby]

Here's a site with links to wind cone given current forecast track:

http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/3_hurr.html

You had to figure somebody was doing this somewhere. Thanks for that link!