NEW VORTEX 11:30

[chris_fit]

NEW VORTEX

URNT12 KNHC 040233
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 04/0233Z
B. 26 DEG 10 MIN N
77 DEG 38 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2757 M
D. NA
E. NA
F. 318 DEG 68 KT
G. 222 DEG 59 NM
H. 960 MB
I. 11 C/ 3065 M
J. 18 C/ 3076 M
K. 13 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345/7
O. 0.1/3 NM
P. AF861 2606A FRANCES OB 06
MAX FL WIND 68 KT SW QUAD 0216Z.

[siobhan222]

What does that mean Chris, please translate for us newbies.

Thanks.

[Brent]

They just got out.

Pretty much means it's holding the same intensity. The SW quadrant typically has the lowest winds anyway. Pressure is the same as earlier.

[NateFLA]

I see 960MB press, no eyewall.

[chris_fit]

What does that mean Chris, please translate for us newbies.

Thanks.

No Changes really..


I dont understand why the MAX FLIGHT LEVEL WIN was like 68knots would be less than hurricane strength at the surface

Pressure is the same.

[Sanibel]

Maybe 960 is the top-off to this trend?

I dont understand why the MAX FLIGHT LEVEL WIND was like 68knots would be less than hurricane strength at the surface

Because the storm is sheared from the SW. The return wind side (west side of the hurricane) is distorted because of this shear, pushing the whole storm off-center. This is why the east side is so full and the west side is blown dry by shear. What happens is the storm makes up for it by swinging faster on the NE side like a roller coaster going to the bottom of a loop. The west side, where the measurement was taken, was the top of the loop where the rollercoaster slows down as it peaks at its point of least inertia.

If the hunter went further out into the NE side he probably would have found 107 knot or more somewhere in there...

[NateFLA]

960mb in the SW quad by the high pressure system though... what would that mean for the stronger NE quad?

[Frank P]

vortex translation.....

Storm FRANCES: Observed By AF #861
Storm #06 in Atlantic Ocean
Date/Time of Recon Report: Friday, September 03, 2004 21:33:00
Position of the center: 26° 10' N 77° 38' W
Minimum Height Measured At Standard Level Of 700mb: 2757m (Normal: 3011)
Maximum Surface Winds Were: Not Estimated
No Bearing From Center To Estimated Surface Winds Was Measured
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were 68KT (78.2mph) From 318°
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were Measured 59nm (67.85miles) From Center At Bearing 222°
Minimum pressure: 960mb (28.35in)
Eye Wall Was < 50% Closed
Eye Did Not Have A Definable Form
Center Fix Established Using: Penetration Radar Wind Pressure Temperature
Center Fix Established At Level(s): 700mb
Navigational Accuracy Measured At 0.1nm
Meteorological Accuracy Measured At 3nm

[Pebbles]

vortex translation.....

Storm FRANCES: Observed By AF #861
Storm #06 in Atlantic Ocean
Date/Time of Recon Report: Friday, September 03, 2004 21:33:00
Position of the center: 26° 10' N 77° 38' W
Minimum Height Measured At Standard Level Of 700mb: 2757m (Normal: 3011)
Maximum Surface Winds Were: Not Estimated
No Bearing From Center To Estimated Surface Winds Was Measured
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were 68KT (78.2mph) From 318°
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were Measured 59nm (67.85miles) From Center At Bearing 222°
Minimum pressure: 960mb (28.35in)
Eye Wall Was < 50% Closed
Eye Did Not Have A Definable Form
Center Fix Established Using: Penetration Radar Wind Pressure Temperature
Center Fix Established At Level(s): 700mb
Navigational Accuracy Measured At 0.1nm
Meteorological Accuracy Measured At 3nm

Dang...can you translate all the Vortex's for me LOL ...j/k....very nice...*applauds*

[Brent]

What does that mean Chris, please translate for us newbies.

Thanks.

No Changes really..


I dont understand why the MAX FLIGHT LEVEL WIN was like 68knots would be less than hurricane strength at the surface

Pressure is the same.

SW Quadrant.

[Frank P]

thanks but....

I can't take credit for the quick translation.... a computer programmer that posts on CFHC attached a program online that you can down load... it automatically translates the vortex for you... even has a link for you to get the most up to date vortex message.... its cool... all you do is cut and paste ...... and poof... .your translation is there...

unfortunately the site has been down the past several hours or I'd try to get you the exact post so you could download it....

[siobhan222]

AWESOME .. thank you all so much, especially Pebbles.