Will Ivan have problems growing because of up-welling?

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logybogy

Will Ivan have problems growing because of up-welling?

#1 Postby logybogy » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:36 am

If he follows a track similar to Frances, won't the waters be significantly cooler especially near south florida and the bahamas?
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#2 Postby bahamaswx » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:39 am

It seems to me that many people on these boards over-estimate the over-estimate the extent of the upwelling in general and the effects thereafter. Not to mention Ivan is easily a week or more behind Frances.
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#3 Postby ericinmia » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:40 am

That is sometimes a problem with storms that follow eachother durring intensification cycles... however soo much time has passed since Frances went through those waters. It wouldn't be a problem for Ivan.
-Eric
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Re: Will Ivan have problems growing because of up-welling?

#4 Postby LowMug » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:19 am

logybogy wrote:If he follows a track similar to Frances, won't the waters be significantly cooler especially near south florida and the bahamas?


are we learning or are we taking up space....by the time Ivan got any where (now I shall say if) near the path of Frances (once again if Ivan crossed Frances's path) there is such a long time differential that there would be at most a minimal impact...

apparently upwelling is the only way to explain Lili's demise (weakening thank goodness)...therefore the bandwagon has been jumped on...

where the hell is ncweatherwizard..he knows all and can explain all
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#5 Postby calidoug » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:22 am

Ivan is tracking well south of Frances.

So even if it were an issue in general, it won't be in this case.
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#6 Postby LowMug » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:25 am

calidoug wrote:Ivan is tracking well south of Frances.

So even if it were an issue in general, it won't be in this case.


exactly...therefore I point out the ...
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#7 Postby Greg » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:29 am

I wonder what effect, if any, the ocean depth has on the speed of the hurricanes spin rate. It seems to me if the water is shallow, it would cause less drag on the bottom of the "spinning top" and enable it to spin faster, perhaps even acting as a lubricant, compared to land or deeper seas.

Charlie sped up when it hit the shallow waters of the west coast of Florida.

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/image/2minsurface/45N090W.html
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#8 Postby ericinmia » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:34 am

I believe Charley sped up due to a front that was pushing/pulling him. Frances has nothing other than a mid to weak high pressure pushing on it.

I am not sure about water depth though, and its consequences.
-Eric
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