Wow....Strengthening

#1 Postby **MWatkins** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:26 pm

The latest visible satellite imagery suggests that this could be getting better organzized...and even without a tight inner core...WTVJ reports that the TPC will be upgrading back to major status at 5PM due to some data from the new stepped frequency equip on the NOAA aircraft.

Unfortunately...Frances isn't done yet.

MW

wasup · #2 Postby **wasup** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:27 pm

and stalled, least we here on the florida east coast forget it....

LCfromFL · #3 Postby **LCfromFL** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:27 pm

WOW! A strengthening/slow mover is baaaaaaaaaaaaad news for our South Florida neighbors! :eek:

southerngale · #4 Postby **southerngale** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:28 pm

Is Frances stalled again? It sure looks to be creeping west on radar.

#5 Postby **vbhoutex** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:28 pm

Yep here is the report Derek posted.

http://storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=41680

It appears we have a Cat3 on our hands again. Hopefully there won't be to much deepening.

Website · #6 Postby **Brent** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:29 pm

btsgmdad · #7 Postby **btsgmdad** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:30 pm

I knew stalling over the Gulf Stream was bad news!

deguy50 · #8 Postby **deguy50** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:32 pm

it just seems they cant get any good news :roll:

ColdFront77 · #9 Postby **ColdFront77** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:40 pm

LCfromFL wrote:WOW! A strengthening/slow mover is baaaaaaaaaaaaad news for our South Florida neighbors!

.....here in central Florida, too.

dennis1x1 · #10 Postby **dennis1x1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:46 pm

this thread needs a big NOT attached to it

logybogy · #11 Postby **logybogy** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:52 pm

No, it is strengthening.

The NHC tends not to jump on every data report. They like to look for trends before they upgrade winds or downgrade for that matter.

They held up Frances as a major hurricane for hours when there was no evidence from the hurricane hunters.

dennis1x1 · #12 Postby **dennis1x1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:54 pm

umm...no its not...

recon shows no decrease in pressure and no increase in winds (per their own discussion)....there is no "data" to jump on...

i know people are rooting for this thing but it just isnt happening at this time...

Anonymous · #13 Postby **Anonymous** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:55 pm

WFOR is reporting that the SFMR data has 116 m.p.h. at the surface. If true, we have a cat 3 hurricane

Again, there is data.

logybogy · #14 Postby **logybogy** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:55 pm

Yes, there is data to jump on. There was a report from WFOR and Bryan Norcross. Read the thread about it.

Matthew5 · #15 Postby **Matthew5** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:56 pm

That date derek posted is surface level winds almost! :grr:

dennis1x1 · #16 Postby **dennis1x1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:57 pm

yes 1 piece of anomalous data....vs all the recons and dropsondes that say otherwise...

there hasnt been a 100+ flight wind for over a day now.....105 is generous.

Anonymous · #17 Postby **Anonymous** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:58 pm

ugm... 97 kts is well over 100 mph. If there is surface data that proves 115+ mph winds are evident I dont see why you argue.

dennis1x1 · #18 Postby **dennis1x1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:59 pm

of course flight level winds are in kts...i left off the units...105 = mph at surface, 100+ = kts at flight level....

dennis1x1 · #19 Postby **dennis1x1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:00 pm

i find it comical that people believe the NHC would underestimate surface winds.....the exact opposite is true...thats just common sense.

#20 Postby **PurdueWx80** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:01 pm

There hasn't been a recon report since a bit after 1 EDT....they said estimated pressure, not as measured recently.

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