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dennis1x1

#21 Postby dennis1x1 » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:42 pm

i was shocked and depressed at how wrong i was....i shouldnt have doubted myself!!


by all observations available to me the storm hasnt strengthened in the last 24 hours and im glad to see the advisories agree
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#22 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:42 pm

No it wasn't. The dropsonde or onboard meter is very precise. If it recorded a 951 it hit a 951.


Did anyone ever stop to consider this hard data reflects the smaller eye they saw trying to form before? The explanation is simple. Since dropsonde pressure errors aren't possible, the device managed to land in the center of the small eye that is presently being boosted by the Gulf Stream. Since this eye is small it can't drag the rest of the storm up to its depth. The large eyewall is the core-wall. If the smaller eye gets strong enough over the Gulf Stream it will be powerful enough to finally "grab" the rest of the storm and pull it around.

If this happens that large eye will collapse into the small one and intensification will follow. If this small, more powerful Gulf Stream-enhanced eye is still spinning around within the bigger one at landfall someone could experience a burst of much higher winds...

This western movement could be a drift west. Frances could still resist going inland...
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#23 Postby dennis1x1 » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:44 pm

ummm...someone typed it in wrong on the advisory i assume......

are you saying the nhc is lying that it was a mistake?

boggle
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#24 Postby TheShrimper » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:46 pm

Agree, it is not moving in anytime soon.
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#25 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:49 pm

With the scant response to technical details you see in this site, do you think they would even bother?

If you ever meet someone from a hurricane hunter crew ask them if a dropsonde would ever make a serious pressure mistake like that...
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#26 Postby dennis1x1 » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:52 pm

so it rapidly intensified, then rapidly weakened all the while looking the same on satellite AND THEN the NHC lied about this historic event to cover it up from the public.

Mulder?
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#27 Postby debbiet » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:53 pm

Personally...I definitely don't doubt the dropsonde...but I could appreciate someone's finger on a keyboard or a misreading of data...957 and 951 would be an easy enough typo...and IF someone were reading a digital screen (don't know if that's the case with a dropsonde) 957 and 951 could look an awful lot alike.
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#28 Postby NorthGaWeather » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:55 pm

dennis1x1 wrote:so it rapidly intensified, then rapidly weakened all the while looking the same on satellite AND THEN the NHC lied about this historic event to cover it up from the public.

Mulder?


Historic event???
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#29 Postby caneman » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:57 pm

dennis1x1 wrote:so it rapidly intensified, then rapidly weakened all the while looking the same on satellite AND THEN the NHC lied about this historic event to cover it up from the public.

Mulder?


Umm, lets see weren't you the guy earlier who said it was falling apart earlier when it in fact was holding its own? They did get a a 957 reading. Hardly weakening and hardly status quo.
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#30 Postby dennis1x1 » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:58 pm

yes...down 11mb and then up 9mb over the course of a couple of hours would probably be historic.
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#31 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:04 pm

I frankly don't understand what's going on anymore. I'm starting to get sick of this storm. Just strengthen or go inland already!
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