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#1 Postby MWatkins » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:56 pm

24 Hours Ago:

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Now:

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I'm not going to do all the work here...What has changed synoptically?

Where are the big changes? Buhler? Buhler?

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#2 Postby Anonymous » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:57 pm

Um... a high is moving in?
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#3 Postby al79philly » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:58 pm

:eek: The date changed!
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#4 Postby huricanwatcher » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:58 pm

frances has lifted up and away opening all kinds of possibilites
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#5 Postby marc21688 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:59 pm

Im confused!? lol
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#6 Postby Harbormaster » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:59 pm

Ridge in the atlantic built back in to the west

Ridge over the CONUS built east

It either gets sucked up between the two or misses both and continues west...........
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#7 Postby Brent » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:00 pm

Ridge.

Oh and Good Riddance Frances! :grr:
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#8 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:01 pm

o.k...game over! what does all this mean??
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#9 Postby marc21688 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:01 pm

Now if he gets "stuck" between the two ridges how dramatically could he turn?
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#10 Postby rjgator » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:02 pm

I have no idea but would really like to know what it means for you and I in Coconut Creek.
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#11 Postby Innotech » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:03 pm

from what I can see, the Atlantic high pressure system moved further west in Frances wake, but she left a noticeable weakness in the ridge, which may or may not guide Ivan straight into Tamp/Port Charlotte area AGAIN.
the high pressure is also building in from the west to EEast forming a barrier over Texas and Louisiana, which means we arentl ikely to get Ivan under the current setup. I see yet another squeeze play occurring in which Ivan getsl iften northward as the ridge to his east weakens under Frances' passing, and then is guided into Florida as the trough of low pressure behind Frances moves west with the ridge. This all soundsl ike babble and it probably is, but thats how Im reading it. :oops:
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#12 Postby Coldfront » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:03 pm

Dry air is moving away from the GOM (moving back north towards Canada), while it's strengthening in the east dropping down into the northeast Caribbean and eastern Florida.

Looks like it's going to allow Ivan to move into the central Caribbean or into the GOM proper.
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#13 Postby Stormchaser16 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:03 pm

Nice ridge, it could allow Ivan to move around the western edge of that ridge if the other high doesnt build in too strong(over conus)...... it will also act to keep Ivan from moving out to sea and giving someone a threat
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#14 Postby Harbormaster » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:03 pm

And if it gets around the western periphery of the atlantic ridge, it will probably get sheared apart by the ridge over the CONUS
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#15 Postby MWatkins » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:04 pm

Hint...look in the box between 20 and 40N...60 and 90W.

My answer may not be 100% because I could be missing something synoptically...but I will give it a bit later on....

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#16 Postby marc21688 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:05 pm

MWatkins tell us!!!
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#17 Postby marc21688 » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:05 pm

oh ok.
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#18 Postby huricanwatcher » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:06 pm

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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#19 Postby Harbormaster » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:07 pm

That is a huge box and there is a lot going on there... Frances, Atlantic ridge and CONUS ridge! That leaves it wide open... what do you see MW???
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#20 Postby ericinmia » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:07 pm

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This shows a low pressure channel between two large high pressure ridges. Usually the troughs wedged between two such systems are very strong... thus channeling features from the carribean through them quickly, up in between the two high pressure systems.

That is not good for south fla.
-Eric
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