SE United States setup for worst flooding ever?
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SE United States setup for worst flooding ever?
I think this is a fair question, I'm in North Carolina and know a little bit about what flooding can do. The river levels are past flood stage now and rising. Dams to the west are backed up and some are in danger of breaking. Could Ivan be the straw that breaks the camels back all across the south? Could we be facing a floyd situation, but even more widespread? I'm going to look up the river I live close too and list the Flood Stage Height along with the current height of the river. Please if some could do the same so we all can take a look at how the southeast stands with their rivers.
Thanks to whom are interested.
Thanks to whom are interested.
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My River Neuse River near Goldsboro 11.11ft Flood Stage is 14ft. The River chart is showing a fairly sharp increase in the level over the next days. Here is the link for my River... http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nc/nwis/uv/?s ... 0065,00060
It has the charts there.
It has the charts there.
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I have been truly frightened about this unfolding scenario for the past several days, and have discussed it extensively on another message board I frequent. From Florida up north through Viginia you have extremely saturated ground. The water has nowhere left to go. Because Ivan is an immense storm, we are going to have another Frances rainfall scenario on our hands. Now, it might not be AS BAD as Frances if a couple of things happen:
1. If Ivan keeps moving at a decent forward speed, he will not be over land as long as Frances was.
2. If Ivan takes a more eastern track rainfall amounts north of Florida probably won't be as bad as if he tracks into Tallahassee.
BUT, even given those two scenarios, there is still likely to be 6-7 inches of rain in the greater southeast U.S. associated with Ivan. That will be significantly less than from Frances, but the ground is already saturated. Therefore, 6-7 inches of rain may SEEM worse than what just happened with Frances.
I do fear that we are going to see catastrophic flooding with Ivan throughout the entire southeast U.S.
1. If Ivan keeps moving at a decent forward speed, he will not be over land as long as Frances was.
2. If Ivan takes a more eastern track rainfall amounts north of Florida probably won't be as bad as if he tracks into Tallahassee.
BUT, even given those two scenarios, there is still likely to be 6-7 inches of rain in the greater southeast U.S. associated with Ivan. That will be significantly less than from Frances, but the ground is already saturated. Therefore, 6-7 inches of rain may SEEM worse than what just happened with Frances.
I do fear that we are going to see catastrophic flooding with Ivan throughout the entire southeast U.S.
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Think of when you were a kid and you put water in a bucket and spun it around your head. The G-forces kept the water in the bucket. But when you slowed down, the water sloshed out.
When a hurricane comes onland it slows down. A lot of the rain held aloft by the swirling wind comes down in a deluge. I think it would be safe to assume that there will be significant flooding from Ivan from Florida to Maine.
When a hurricane comes onland it slows down. A lot of the rain held aloft by the swirling wind comes down in a deluge. I think it would be safe to assume that there will be significant flooding from Ivan from Florida to Maine.
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B-Bear wrote:From Florida up north through Viginia you have extremely saturated ground.
Not just through Virginia. All the way up here in Vermont, the ground is saturated. There's nowhere for more water to go (nowhere good, anyway). I've heard from my nurses aides that they're having problems doing their job because of all the washed-out roads.
We got lucky with Frances in that we ended up in a dry slot for most of the remnant's passage. But whether we'll be so lucky with Ivan is far from certain. And if we're not so lucky, things are going to get ugly over here.
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Up Here By Asheville, NC...Canton & Clyde, To Asheville's West...Flooded Badly...Canton Lost Their Town Hall's Insides To The Pigeon River...Everything Ruined! The Police Dept.'s Records Were Ruined!, Computers, Etc! I Still Don't Know If The Places I Pay Bills At Are Open Yet..One Was Right By The Pigeon River! Trailers Got It...People Were Rescued In The Middle Of The Night. Old Folk's Homes, Were Evacuated In The Night. Not Many Shelters, Were Available! 500 Animals Were Rescued All Night From An Animal Shelter!
Highway I-40 Suffered HUGE Mud Slides, That Closed 6 Lanes, It Took A Whole Day To Clear Just One Lane On Either Side!
Many Shops Lost Everything...Including Antique Shops! The Biltmore Square Had Problems, No One Could Get In Or Out. Lots Done, From Canton, Clyde & Asheville!
Black Mountain Area...Suffered Greatly And Got Over 13 Inches!
Spotty Power Outages All Over~
BASICALLY ALL Rivers, Creeks, Or Dams...Are Beyond Limits, Or Close To!
*Good Luck To You N. Carolinians As Well As South*...And To All In This Ivan's Path!
~Stormwinds~
Highway I-40 Suffered HUGE Mud Slides, That Closed 6 Lanes, It Took A Whole Day To Clear Just One Lane On Either Side!
Many Shops Lost Everything...Including Antique Shops! The Biltmore Square Had Problems, No One Could Get In Or Out. Lots Done, From Canton, Clyde & Asheville!
Black Mountain Area...Suffered Greatly And Got Over 13 Inches!
Spotty Power Outages All Over~
BASICALLY ALL Rivers, Creeks, Or Dams...Are Beyond Limits, Or Close To!
*Good Luck To You N. Carolinians As Well As South*...And To All In This Ivan's Path!
~Stormwinds~
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