Ivan Advisories

[vbhoutex]

If all of you NHC bashers are so much better than they are why aren't you working for them or setting up your own agencies and putting out better forecasts?

I am tired of the constant bashing going on about the NHC and their track. It is fine to diagree with them, but to state or imply that they do not know what they are doing IS WRONG AND MUST STOP ON THIS SITE!! They have a lot more tools to work with than anyone on this site and a have a lot more parameters to deal with than any of us do. We all can forecast whatever we want without any ramifications on us. They can't, they are dealing with literally millions of lives. Don't even start in with me about how they should be better than they are if they are dealing with millions of lives. When and if you can do better than they have done and are doing and can show verification of such, then maybe you all will have some room to talk. Until then, STOP THE NHC BASHING!!

Disagreeing and stating the reasons with backup for your disagreement is one thing. Saying the NHC doesn't know what they are doing IS WRONG!!

[wxwatcher2]

Where is this storm going?
NHC was doing so good on their track forecasts up until Ivan.

I think it goes into the Yucatan passage and then ....????

[Cuzam]

So why wouldnt it be a Tropical Storm Warning vs. a Hurricane Warning?

The question of MANY of us locals (in the Yucatan area) who follow weather sites!!!!

[charleston_hugo_veteran]

http://modis.gsfc.nasa.gov/

[BayouVenteux]

And just plain naive.

When a storm of this magnitude, is approaching your area, you do not hesitate to make any and all preparations.

If any area should know, I bet the people in Florida where Charley landed, could tell the people in the Caymans about landfall projections.

I agree EZ. But from what I know from my brief visits to the Caymans, there's a lot of foreign expatriates and financial industry transients living there who've had absolutely no experience with hurricanes. You can bet the true locals were in red flag mode long before Ivan's Jamaica passage.

[bfez1]

Wrong answer. I assure you that he is not clinging to the fact of wanting one to come to his area!


Rainband, even though I am on the MS Gulf Coast, I am praying for you and everyone's safety along the west coast of Florida.

Linda,
Johnathan may be praying for us soon.

[webke]

I like this link. http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~rickk/ivan.html

[Cape Verde]

The NOGAPS run at both PSU and FSU sites are the 00Z run. I can't find the 12Z run anywhere.

[Ivanova]

I don't get it ?

There is ongoing speculation where Ivan might make landfall...
from Florida to Texas... so why would anyone have a problem
discussing New Orleans ?

[charleston_hugo_veteran]

If all of you NHC bashers are so much better than they are why aren't you working for them or setting up your own agencies and putting out better forecasts?

I am tired of the constant bashing going on about the NHC and their track. It is fine to diagree with them, but to state or imply that they do not know what they are doing IS WRONG AND MUST STOP ON THIS SITE!! They have a lot more tools to work with than anyone on this site and a have a lot more parameters to deal with than any of us do. We all can forecast whatever we want without any ramifications on us. They can't, they are dealing with literally millions of lives. Don't even start in with me about how they should be better than they are if they are dealing with millions of lives. When and if you can do better than they have done and are doing and can show verification of such, then maybe you all will have some room to talk. Until then, STOP THE NHC BASHING!!




Disagreeing and stating the reasons with backup for your disagreement is one thing. Saying the NHC doesn't know what they are doing IS WRONG!!

I agree! NHC ROCKS!!

[Ripopgodazippa]

There is a joke that runs the entire Florida EOC. If Cantore is there, the storm won't be! True or not... Thats the joke...

[PurdueWx80]

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/CGI/PUBLIC/w ... =ngp_namer

[Derek Ortt]

usually, for a storm of this intensity, the protocol is a hurricane warning 24 hours prior to the onset of tropical storm conditions

[dhweather]

I appreciate the links, I'm looking for something makes it easier to see double eyewalls.

[alicia-w]

http://weather.net-waves.com/td09.php

Is that the double eyewall in the visible images? That is just about one of the craziest things I have ever seen.

And it looks like you can see the eye on the Cuban radar.

[bahamaswx]

You can clearly see the concentric eyewalls on any visible satellite image.

[WeatherNLU]

Wow, another one. This might be good though. Let's go ahead and get them all pointed at New Orleans more than 72 hours out, because we know it won't verify!

[alicia-w]

Can be seen clearly here:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... VIS/20.jpg

[wxwatcher2]

I'll probably jinx the Central Fla peninsula but ...
there isn't any way that Ivan is going to turn back into the Tampa area. Not with the Western track it has been on for the past two days.

Bt, I wish it would HURRY up and do whatever it's going to do.

[cloud_galaxy]

So why wouldnt it be a Tropical Storm Warning vs. a Hurricane Warning?

Because so far, Ivan has proved to be not very predictable?