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Cayman Islands

#1 Postby ColdWaterConch » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:39 pm

FINANCE PARADISE UNDER SIEGE

Urgent US military intervention needed in Grand Cayman

The following is the full text of an open letter from Mr Timothy Adam Chief Executive, Cable & Wireless (Cayman Islands) Ltd

Wednesday, September 15, 2004

Grand Cayman urgently needs military intervention to restore and to preserve law and order. This needs to happen TODAY. No doubt US authorities are already aware of the widespread looting that has occurred. I have heard sporadic attempts at looting continue to occur. I got caught in traffic right beside a site where police had shot several times at a looter and had detained him, and there was a near riot - a very volatile situation to which police responded promptly with heavy assault weapon teams. In summary: If we lose this site, we have lost the country. This site needs to be defended with military assistance as a matter of urgent priority. The US Military also need to know that in this site and in an adjacent building (AT&T Wireless offices in Trinity Square on Eastern Avenue) there are in total at least 25 United States citizens who in my considered opinion need their country's protection NOW, hence I believe under US laws use of the military is justified or authorised. For the most part these are people who are very necessary to help in the telecommunications restoration work. PLEASE BE CLEAR: WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE US SHOULD EVACUATE THEM; on the contrary most of these people need to remain here because THEY ARE VITAL TO THE REBUILDING PROCESS THAT IS GOING ON SO THAT THE COUNTRY CAN RECOVER FROM THE HURRICANE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE! There are a few of this number who are spouses and children of Cable & Wireless staff, families, and/or others who have taken refuge in One Technology Square, several of whom we are planning to evacuate through existing channels and military assistance is not needed for that.

http://www.caymannetnews.com/2004/09/738/letter.shtml
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#2 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:41 pm

I thought there were a couple of British naval vessel there already?

Of course, we should help if we can.
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#3 Postby Guest » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:42 pm

This is what happens if so few have alot and many have none. I love the USA .
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Re: Cayman Islands

#4 Postby Windy » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:46 pm

Hey, guess what? You're RICH! You can afford to fly in private thugs. It's not that hard, and most such mercs are ex special ops, anyway.

:roll:
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#5 Postby BReb » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:46 pm

I read somewhere the Caymans residents have one of the highest standards of living of anywhere in the world.
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#6 Postby cape_escape » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:49 pm

What a nightmare!
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#7 Postby msbee » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:49 pm

seems to me that they need to ask the British government for intervention, not the USA.
isn't Cayman part of the British commonwealth?
also a request like that has to go through government channels I woudl think
sound likes cray times all over.. always when people have lostt everything..
hope everyone stays safe
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#8 Postby BirdyCin » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:22 pm

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#9 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:28 pm

smokin wrote:This is what happens if so few have alot and many have none. I love the USA .


Excuse me? Doesn't that mean any one who is poor should be able to rob someone who makes say $20,000 a year. After all they would be considered rich to this poor person. This is socialism talk. Say your parents were wealthy and happened to live down there. Are you saying it would be ok for them to be robbed? Get a grip!
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#10 Postby itglobalsecure » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:33 pm

Darn right, when our companies incorporate there to defray paying U.S. taxes, they should have planned ahead for a little extra support. Now they expect our good will.... just who will get the bill? The 489 U.S. subsidiaries that have located there for tax free status (and that is JUST the oil and gas companies)? Bet not.

Hmphh....
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#11 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:39 pm

itglobalsecure wrote:Darn right, when our companies incorporate there to defray paying U.S. taxes, they should have planned ahead for a little extra support. Now they expect our good will.... just who will get the bill? The 489 U.S. subsidiaries that have located there for tax free status (and that is JUST the oil and gas companies)? Bet not.

Hmphh....


It my friend is called good will which America was built upon. You know, helping out thy neighbor. Ever heard the statement - what comes around goes around? Think about it. I would bet my life savings that if you owned a business that large that you to would have it home based down there and tkae advantage of any other tax loop hole that would be available.
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#12 Postby dennis1x1 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:44 pm

time to get heinz kerry down there and get them clothes off......

generators THEN food......
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#13 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:48 pm

dennis1x1 wrote:time to get heinz kerry down there and get them clothes off......

generators THEN food......


Yeah, she really knows how to string the words together doesn't she?
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#14 Postby Possum Trot » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:50 pm

itglobalsecure wrote:Darn right, when our companies incorporate there to defray paying U.S. taxes, they should have planned ahead for a little extra support. Now they expect our good will.... just who will get the bill? The 489 U.S. subsidiaries that have located there for tax free status (and that is JUST the oil and gas companies)? Bet not.

Hmphh....


Perhaps transnational corps no longer require a nation state to justify their existence as legal fictions. A fading formality. Regardless of how the attourneys restucture their clauses in the sky, you, and other human beings will pay. Only human beings can pay, in the end.
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#15 Postby dennis1x1 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:51 pm

clothes nothing more than an accessory for the rich.....optional for the little people...


"Clothing is wonderful, but let them go naked for a while, at least the kids," said Heinz Kerry, the wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry. "Water is necessary, and then generators, and then food, and then clothes."


generators THEN food......thats my motto.
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#16 Postby Possum Trot » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:55 pm

From: http://stormcarib.com/reports/2004/cayman.shtml

"Please please please only post accurate, confirmed information! This
website is a lifeline, perhaps the only one right now, for thousands of
people worldwide. It is not uncommon for emotions to get in the way of real
facts during a time of crisis but we must resist the urge to overemphasize,
sensationalize, or speculate on the situation in the Cayman Islands. As you
have already seen, the postings here range from total carnage, lawlessness,
and destruction to incredible stories of hope and community spirit. It is
our responsibility to paint an accurate picture of what is going on."
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#17 Postby Windy » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:01 pm

caneman wrote:
itglobalsecure wrote:Darn right, when our companies incorporate there to defray paying U.S. taxes, they should have planned ahead for a little extra support. Now they expect our good will.... just who will get the bill? The 489 U.S. subsidiaries that have located there for tax free status (and that is JUST the oil and gas companies)? Bet not.

Hmphh....


It my friend is called good will which America was built upon. You know, helping out thy neighbor. Ever heard the statement - what comes around goes around? Think about it. I would bet my life savings that if you owned a business that large that you to would have it home based down there and tkae advantage of any other tax loop hole that would be available.


And his point was that the entire island exists primarily for large U.S. based corporations to avoid paying taxes. Now said companies are freaking out, demanding U.S. military intervention. To me, that seems terribly ironic. 8-)
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#18 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:08 pm

Windy wrote:
caneman wrote:
itglobalsecure wrote:Darn right, when our companies incorporate there to defray paying U.S. taxes, they should have planned ahead for a little extra support. Now they expect our good will.... just who will get the bill? The 489 U.S. subsidiaries that have located there for tax free status (and that is JUST the oil and gas companies)? Bet not.

Hmphh....


It my friend is called good will which America was built upon. You know, helping out thy neighbor. Ever heard the statement - what comes around goes around? Think about it. I would bet my life savings that if you owned a business that large that you to would have it home based down there and tkae advantage of any other tax loop hole that would be available.


And his point was that the entire island exists primarily for large U.S. based corporations to avoid paying taxes. Now said companies are freaking out, demanding U.S. military intervention. To me, that seems terribly ironic. 8-)


Ummm, did you miss the part that these employees are US citizens - Men, Women and Children that are over there? I suppose we shouldn't help because oh they work for a big bad corporation who is avoiding paying taxes.
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#19 Postby frankthetank » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:12 pm

These huge multinationals shouldn't be pumping the air with CO2 causing super hurricanes to form and destroy the islands that they call home, therefore causing the poor in helpless to revolt and steal...j/k...a little humor...really the country is full of banks, so all they have to do is buy some hired guns and clean house on these looting vagrants...the US shouldn't be obliged to help, come on, weve got over 100k troops in Iraq and we can't handle that....
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#20 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:16 pm

frankthetank wrote:These huge multinationals shouldn't be pumping the air with CO2 causing super hurricanes to form and destroy the islands that they call home, therefore causing the poor in helpless to revolt and steal...j/k...a little humor...really the country is full of banks, so all they have to do is buy some hired guns and clean house on these looting vagrants...the US shouldn't be obliged to help, come on, weve got over 100k troops in Iraq and we can't handle that....


Send over a squad or two of Marines to help protect the US citizens for a couple weeks is all it would take.
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