2" of RAIN from Javier!

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2" of RAIN from Javier!

#1 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:26 am

ALL the local mets are calling for at LEAST 2" of rain, maybe MORE from the remains of Javier as it enters the state late tonight and into the weekend WITH a COLD front!


AFDFGZ

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLAGSTAFF AZ
245 AM MST FRI SEP 17 2004

.SYNOPSIS...AFTER ANOTHER SUNNY AND DRY DAY TODAY...CONDITIONS WILL
CHANGE RAPIDLY ACROSS THE REGION OVER THE WEEKEND. DEEP MOISTURE
FROM SOUTH OF THE STATE WILL ARRIVE BY SATURDAY...AND PERSIST WELL
INTO MONDAY. THIS MOISTURE WILL LEAD TO WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA ALL WEEKEND...AND INTO EARLY
MONDAY. IN ADDITION TO THE RAIN...BREEZY TO LOCALLY WINDY CONDITIONS
ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE REGION AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE
WEST. THIS FRONT WILL END THE RAINFALL MONDAY AFTERNOON OR EVENING
AND USHER COLDER TEMPERATURES INTO MUCH OF THE STATE THROUGH THE
MIDDLE PART OF NEXT WEEK.

&&

.DISCUSSION...COMPLICATED PATTERN FOR THE NEXT 4 DAYS OR SO AS
HURRICANE JAVIER WILL BEGIN TO INFLUENCE OUR WEATHER. SLOWER AND
FURTHER WEST FORECAST OF A COLD PACIFIC NORTHWEST TROUGH OVER THE
WEEKEND WILL ALLOW JAVIER AND MOST IMPORTANTLY...ALL THE MOISTURE
AROUND JAVIER...TO MOVE BODILY NORTHWARD INTO THE SOUTHWEST. HIGHER
PW AIR AHEAD OF JAVIER EXPECTED TO MAKE IT INTO ARIZONA AS EARLY AS
TONIGHT...WITH DEEPER MOISTURE ARRIVING BY EARLY SATURDAY. AT THE
SAME TIME...THE TROUGH THAT ENTERS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DROPS SOUTH
INTO THE WESTERN GREAT BASIN...THUS STRENGTHENING THE SOUTHERLY
GRADIENTS OVER ARIZONA AT ALL LEVELS.

GRADIENTS ARE ENOUGH FOR WIND ADVISORIES IN A CLEAR AND WELL MIXED
ATMOSPHERE...BUT THIS WILL NOT BE THE CASE OVER THE WEEKEND.
ALTHOUGH WE WILL BE BREEZY TO LOCALLY WINDY AT TIMES...ALL THE
PRECIP AND CLOUD COVER SHOULD KEEP THINGS FROM REACHING ADVISORY
CRITERIA.

WE WILL BE IN THE ENTRANCE REGION OF A 90 KNOT JET BY SATURDAY
AFTERNOON...WITH MODERATE DIV ALOFT CONTINUING INTO SUNDAY. AIRMASS
NOT TERRIBLY UNSTABLE...BUT LIFTED INDICES ARE AROUND ZERO...WITH A
DEEP SATURATED LAYER AND STRONG UPSLOPE FLOW...WE SHOULD WRING OUT
PLENTY OF MOISTURE.

BY SUNDAY AND EARLY MONDAY...THE AIRMASS BECOMES MORE BAROCLINIC AS
THE TROUGH AXIS APPROACHES. THIS WILL INTENSIFY RAIN AND POSSIBLY
LEAD TO SEVERE WEATHER BEFORE THE WHOLE MESS SWEEPS OUT TO THE EAST
MONDAY AFTERNOON. THE COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE TROUGH AXIS
MONDAY AFTERNOON WILL BE QUITE NOTICEABLE...WITH 700 MB TEMPERATURES
FALLING AROUND 10 DEGREES. THIS COOL AIRMASS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE
FOR THE FIRST AND MIDDLE PART OF NEXT WEEK...AND THE AIRMASS WILL
DRY OUT AND STABILIZE CONSIDERABLY. SOME TEMPERATURE RECOVERY WILL
OCCUR BY DAYS SIX OR SEVEN...BUT WILL STAY DRY. PETERSON.



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#2 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:45 am

Got to thinking, this COULD be a VERY dangerous situation for us. With the '04 Monsoon Season being such a BUST-O-RAMA this year, there could be some MAJOR flash flooding! The ground is SO hard, SO dry :eek: We'll just have to wait and see!

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#3 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:39 am

0641 MST and we're already seeing cloud cover moving in and the winds from the approaching cold front starting to whip a little......gonna be a very interesting weekend dats fer sure!

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#4 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:28 am

I know this is PALE in comparision to Ivan and his aftermath BUT.....with the SouthWest entering into the 9th straight year of what's being called the Most Extensive drought since 1540, it's BIG news PLUS...this HWO and SWS was issued just over an hour ago.


HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
WESTERN MOGOLLON RIM-GRAND CANYON COUNTRY-YAVAPAI COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
YAVAPAI COUNTY VALLEYS AND BASINS-OAK CREEK AND SYCAMORE CANYONS-
MARBLE AND GLEN CANYONS-KAIBAB PLATEAU-COCONINO PLATEAU-
NORTHEAST PLATEAU AND MESAS HWY 264 NORTHWARD-
NORTHEAST PLATEAU AND MESAS SOUTH OF HWY 264-
CHINLE VALLEY-CHUSKA MOUNTAINS AND DEFIANCE PLATEAU-
BLACK MESA AREA-LITTLE COLORADO RIVER VALLEY IN COCONINO COUNTY-
LITTLE COLORADO RIVER VALLEY IN NAVAJO COUNTY-
LITTLE COLORADO RIVER VALLEY IN APACHE COUNTY-
EASTERN MOGOLLON RIM-WHITE MOUNTAINS-NORTHERN GILA COUNTY-
645 AM MST FRI SEP 17 2004

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR APACHE...COCONINO...NORTHERN
GILA...NAVAJO...AND YAVAPAI COUNTIES IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY

NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY

MOISTURE FROM HURRICANE JAVIER...LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHERN TIP OF
BAJA CALIFORNIA...WILL MOVE NORTH INTO ARIZONA BY EARLY SATURDAY
MORNING. WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP OVER THE
REGION SATURDAY...AND CONTINUE THROUGH SUNDAY. LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS
ARE POSSIBLE SATURDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY...ESPECIALLY ALONG
THE MOGOLLON RIM...AS WELL AS IN PORTIONS OF YAVAPAI AND NORTHERN
GILA COUNTIES.

AS MUCH AS 3 INCHES OF RAIN COULD FALL THIS WEEKEND IN FAVORED AREAS
JUST SOUTH OF THE MOGOLLON RIM. IN ADDITION TO THE RAIN...EXPECT
BREEZY TO LOCALLY WINDY CONDITIONS TO DEVELOP SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
SOUTHERLY WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH...WITH GUSTS OVER 30 MPH...WILL BE
COMMON THIS WEEKEND. A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA SUNDAY
NIGHT AND MONDAY...BRINGING AN END TO THE PRECIPITATION. THIS FRONT
WILL ALSO USHER IN MUCH COLDER TEMPERATURES...WITH HIGHS FALLING 10
TO 20 DEGREES FROM THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK.



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#5 Postby Windy » Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:37 am

I was just in northern Arizona, too. Very, very dry. Guess it's time for some flash floods in the Canyon and in Navajo country...
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#6 Postby frankthetank » Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:56 am

You think the peaks outside Flagstaff will see some snow??? I like to check out this webcam whenever its in the forecast...

http://134.114.127.22/view/index.shtml
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#7 Postby CajunMama » Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:16 am

You know Dennis we forget that the Pacific hurricanes can impact the US. Welcome to our hurricane world! Be careful of the flash flooding and mudslides after the wildfires.
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#8 Postby gravitylover1 » Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:51 am

Time for the first snows on the peaks! The year I lived in Flagstaff we had snow on the mtn on September 17th, a few flakes in town too.
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#9 Postby Buck » Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:52 pm

2 inches in Arizona is a ton! 2 inches in Georgia is a rainstorm. :)
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#10 Postby weatherlover427 » Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:02 pm

Push a little bit of that over here will ya? Hasn't rained good here for 5 months. :(
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#11 Postby LAwxrgal » Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:03 pm

Buck wrote:2 inches in Arizona is a ton! 2 inches in Georgia is a rainstorm. :)


2 inches in Georgia is a shower. :lol:

2 inches in Louisiana is a sprinkle. :lol:

Be careful over there!
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#12 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:24 pm

AFDFGZ

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLAGSTAFF AZ
230 PM MST FRI SEP 17 2004

.SYNOPSIS...MOISTURE WILL INCREASE FROM THE SOUTH OVER THE WEEKEND.
RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS NORTHERN ARIZONA BEGINNING
SATURDAY AND LINGERING INTO MONDAY. THE RAIN WILL BE LOCALLY HEAVY AT
TIMES...ESPECIALLY OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY...THE
MOGOLLON RIM AND THE WHITE MOUNTAINS. IN ADDITION TO THE RAIN...BREEZY
TO LOCALLY WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE REGION AS A COLD
FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THIS FRONT WILL END THE RAINFALL
MONDAY AFTERNOON OR EVENING AND USHER COLDER TEMPERATURES INTO MUCH
OF THE STATE THROUGH THE MIDDLE PART OF NEXT WEEK.

&&

.DISCUSSION...SATELLITE IR/WV IMAGERY SHOWS MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH
JAVIER CONTINUING TO MOVE NORTHWARD TOWARD AZ. MODELS CONSISTENT IN
BRINGING THIS MOISTURE ACROSS THE STATE OVER THE WEEKEND. DEEPEST
LAYERED MOISTURE IS SHOWN FOR SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING. PW
VALUES RISE TO OVER AN INCH ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE STATE.
THEN SOME UPPER LEVEL DRYING IS SEEN STARTING LATE SUNDAY BUT PLENTY
OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINS THRU MONDAY. PAC NW TROF PROGGED TO
DEEPEN AND MOVES TOWARD THE DESERT SW OVER THE WEEKEND. ASSOCIATED
COLD FRONT TO SWEEP ACROSS THE STATE ON MONDAY. AHEAD OF THE TROF A
90 KT JET SEEN MOVING ACROSS NW AZ. THIS PUTS THE CWA UNDER THE RIGHT
REAR QUADRANT WITH GOOD UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE. PRECIP ALSO TO BE
ENHANCED BY STRONG OROGRAPHIC FORCING...30-40 KTS AT H7 LEVEL ACROSS
THE RIM AND WHITES. MODELS DIFFER ON TOTAL PRECIP FOR THIS EVENT BUT
ESTIMATES RANGE FROM 1 TO 3 INCHES. LOOKING AT BREEZY TO LOCALLY WINDY
CONDITIONS THIS WEEKEND. BELIEVE WINDS WILL STAY BELOW ADVISORY
CRITERIA DUE TO CLOUD COVER AND LACK OF GOOD MIXING. TROF AXIS WILL
MOVE THRU THE STATE ON MONDAY SWEEPING THE MOISTURE TO THE EAST.
PRECIP SHOULD DIMINISH FROM WEST TO EAST DURING THE DAY. CLEAR
...DRY BUT COOL WEATHER SEEN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK. DF
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#13 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:26 pm

frankthetank wrote:You think the peaks outside Flagstaff will see some snow??? I like to check out this webcam whenever its in the forecast...

http://134.114.127.22/view/index.shtml


I highly doubt it, I WISH we would though! Ya know, WE USUALLY get the first snow before the San Franciso Peaks do......won't be long though :wink:

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#14 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:30 pm

Well.......the HWO and SWS "still" has over 3" PLUS the temps dropping some 20°

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#15 Postby Aquawind » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:02 pm

AHEAD OF THE TROF A
90 KT JET SEEN MOVING ACROSS NW AZ. THIS PUTS THE CWA UNDER THE RIGHT
REAR QUADRANT WITH GOOD UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE.


Wow! I don't think you read that to often down there...Well Hunker Down.. not in the flood prone areas.. :wink:
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#16 Postby Stephanie » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:31 pm

It's either feast or famine for you guys! I just hope that enough of it comes at a pace that it can soak into the ground instead of washing away.
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#17 Postby Doc Seminole » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:45 pm

Be careful out there....... 2 inches in Florida is nothing but out your way..... that could be real SERIOUS flooding. :eek:
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#18 Postby azsnowman » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:25 pm

Aquawind wrote:
AHEAD OF THE TROF A
90 KT JET SEEN MOVING ACROSS NW AZ. THIS PUTS THE CWA UNDER THE RIGHT
REAR QUADRANT WITH GOOD UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE.


Wow! I don't think you read that to often down there...Well Hunker Down.. not in the flood prone areas.. :wink:[/quote


Well...the rains are just about to start, not heavy yet, a sprinkle here and there!

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#19 Postby riverratmike » Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:28 pm

I live in Lake Havasu City AZ right near the border of AZ/CA and was just outside and didn't see a cloud anywhere. Stars shining bright and very clear. I wonder if I'll get anything out of Javine tomorrow?
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#20 Postby azsnowman » Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:41 am

Actually, NWS FLAG has a Flood Warning out for your part of the world today thru Sunday rrmike!

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