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#61 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:00 pm

Based on latest developments (90 deaths from Jeanne):

Jeanne should be replaced by Julia or Julie.
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#62 Postby LAwxrgal » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:14 pm

They should just go on and retire this whole list. Throw it away. Don't use it again.
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#63 Postby Ivanova » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:18 am

senorpepr wrote:
Remember that the replacement name will have to be a male,
Spanish name.



Spanish name ????

:?:
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Checkout The Australian Storm Names

#64 Postby King6 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:19 am

Eastern Australian Region
Alfred
Blanch
Charles
Denise
Ernie
[color=green]Frances[/color]
Greg
Hilda
Ivan
Joyce
Kelvin
Lisa
Marcus
Nora
Owen
Polly
Richard
Sadie
Theodore
Verity
Wallace
Notice The C,F,I and maybe L and R...
At least it is on the otherside of the world. :roll:
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#65 Postby ajaxw » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:20 am

Derek Ortt wrote:it will be a spanish name, since Ivan is a spanish name (pronounced ee-von). The US media Americanized it so they could use Ivan the Terrible


While the US media may be guilty of many things, this is not something attributable to poor fact-checking. According to the 10-606 Tropical Cyclone Names and Pronunciation Guide (watch out; this a PDF file), part of the NWS directives, the suggested pronounciation of the name Ivan is eye-van, which the media here has used. Ivan has been in English long enough that I think most people would consider it to be just as much an English name as one of eastern European origin. As LAwxrgal explained,

LAwxrgal wrote:There is a Spanish form...Iván


which phonetically would be closer to (using the same system as in the directive) ee-BAN.

Derek and others are right that the name must be of the same gender and of the same nationality. So those suggesting Ian, Irving, Igor, Iggy, etc. are on the right track. Of course, this would not be such a problem if the WMO region just decided to rotate through the names...

By the way, I think that in this case, if the Caribbean and Latin American media want to use the Spanish pronounciation and the Canadian and US media use a more Anglicized version, who cares? Of note, in the Western Pacific, although all members in the region contribute names, Japan does not use them and prefers referring to the storm by number, even though the RMSC Tokyo is responsible for naming systems of tropical storm strength or higher. Similarly, the Philippines uses its own list of names, claiming the necessity to name depressions that often cause flooding and greater public responsiveness to native names.
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#66 Postby Ivanova » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:21 am

HELLO ?! :roll:

IVAN is the ETHNIC RUSSIAN name for JOHN !!!
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#67 Postby Matthew5 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:22 am

Heres a idea instead of retiring Ivan...Since we maybe running out of names soon...We should use it again just as long as its a fish! But use a new name when it threatens land?
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#68 Postby King6 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:34 am

New Name - Incubus
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#69 Postby LAwxrgal » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:45 am

Ivanova wrote:HELLO ?! :roll:

IVAN is the ETHNIC RUSSIAN name for JOHN !!!


I'm aware of that. Did you read the whole thread? :wink:

Actually Ivan is the Russian form of John.
:lol:
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#70 Postby southtexasgal » Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:16 am

Ian...I think the new name should be Ian... named after my very destructive little nephew, whom we "affectionately" refer to as the evil demon spawn child of satan!!!! Sounds like a good name for a cane!!! :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:
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#71 Postby Dan » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:53 am

Stormsfury wrote:
Dan wrote:How about Ivory?


Male name for a male name, and IF Ivan was the English version, it'll be replaced by an equivalent male and English counterpart ...


scary thing is, I actually have met some males named Ivory while I was in college... :wink:

As someone just said, the correct phonics for Ivan is (eye-van) the media was right. I don't think they would miss this storm just because of the many times in the past the media has gone out of their way to correctly pronounce the names of storms, Georges, Hermine and Gaston are perfect examples.
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#72 Postby mascpa » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:57 am

Ignacio
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#73 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:33 pm

Ignacio is already a name in the EPAC.
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#74 Postby athenacp » Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:49 pm

Indecent...Isusu
who says it has to be a person's name?
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#75 Postby feederband » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:53 pm

I2 OR I2D2
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#76 Postby senorpepr » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:59 pm

Ivanova wrote:HELLO ?! :roll:

IVAN is the ETHNIC RUSSIAN name for JOHN !!!


Sure, however names in the Atlantic basin are only English, Spanish, and French. In this case, Iván is a Spanish name. As many mentioned before, the proper pronunciation is ee-BAN.

When an Atlantic tropical cyclone begins to hit Russia, then they'll have the chance at naming some names. Until then, it's English, Spanish, and French for the Atlantic.
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#77 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:01 pm

senorpepr wrote:
Ivanova wrote:HELLO ?! :roll:

IVAN is the ETHNIC RUSSIAN name for JOHN !!!


Sure, however names in the Atlantic basin are only English, Spanish, and French. In this case, Iván is a Spanish name. As many mentioned before, the proper pronunciation is ee-BAN.

When an Atlantic tropical cyclone begins to hit Russia, then they'll have the chance at naming some names. Until then, it's English, Spanish, and French for the Atlantic.


That's interesting that the Spanish V in Ivan is pronounced like a B.

Eric
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#78 Postby Wnghs2007 » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:10 pm

How about Igulfa or Igulfie. LMAO. Since it loves the Gulf so much and a piece of it is about to re develop there. Hehe :D :P
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#79 Postby x-y-no » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:15 pm

Irving. :-)
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#80 Postby Brent » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:33 pm

LAwxrgal wrote:They should just go on and retire this whole list. Throw it away. Don't use it again.


LOL!

I just hope whatever they replace Ivan with it's a name we can pronounce and isn't stupid like Georges, Gaston, Hermine, or Joaquin(replacement for Juan). :roll:
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