Accuweather 6 AM Discussion

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TPC must chosse the path of least regret, so to speak ... the NWS/NOAA cannot play the role of alarmists without good reason, where Accuweather, being a private sector will seemingly sound the alarm, and in many cases, when it's not warranted ... weather media hype. More times than not, TPC will be right or verify very close well within the cone of probability ...

Isn't the free market a wonderful thing?

Accuweather is trying to get you to PAY for weather information, the NWS does this for nothing ...

Uh ... our taxpayer dollars are "nothing"? Well ... I could get political here about that philosophy explaining the Republican's massive deficit spending ... but this not being the politics forum - I'll refrain.

and by far, are superior to Accuweather ... time and time again ...

And here comes that woderful free market again ... you don't have to pay them if you don't want to.

[Guest]

I like Accuweather. Hmm. Why is everybody jumping all over them because of the Jeanne forecast. Did't the TPC adjust their forecast on Ivan many times before it neared landfall. First over eastern or central Cuba and up the the east coast, then over western Cuba and right up the middle of Fla. They didn't have a clue just as the models didn't have a clue until at the last 24 hrs. I didn't see everyone jumping on the tpc though. Go figure.
Amawea

TPC must chosse the path of least regret, so to speak ... the NWS/NOAA cannot play the role of alarmists without good reason, where Accuweather, being a private sector will seemingly sound the alarm, and in many cases, when it's not warranted ... weather media hype. More times than not, TPC will be right or verify very close well within the cone of probability ...

another issue is erratic shifts and wide variances in scenarios, where the NWS/NOAA/TPC will side on caution, especially when there's a wide shift in statistical outputs, and model guidance ...

Accuweather is trying to get you to PAY for weather information, the NWS does this for nothing ... and by far, are superior to Accuweather ... time and time again ...

SF

Very well said SF! Agreed 100%

[Stormsfury]

Isn't the free market a wonderful thing?

yes ...

Uh ... our taxpayer dollars are "nothing"? Well ... I could get political here about that philosophy explaining the Republican's massive deficit spending ... but this not being the politics forum - I'll refrain.

You KNOW what I mean ...

And here comes that woderful free market again ... you don't have to pay them if you don't want to.

Which I won't pay them a dime ...

[charleston_hugo_veteran]

TPC must chosse the path of least regret, so to speak ... the NWS/NOAA cannot play the role of alarmists without good reason, where Accuweather, being a private sector will seemingly sound the alarm, and in many cases, when it's not warranted ... weather media hype. More times than not, TPC will be right or verify very close well within the cone of probability ...

Isn't the free market a wonderful thing?

Accuweather is trying to get you to PAY for weather information, the NWS does this for nothing ...

Uh ... our taxpayer dollars are "nothing"? Well ... I could get political here about that philosophy explaining the Republican's massive deficit spending ... but this not being the politics forum - I'll refrain.

and by far, are superior to Accuweather ... time and time again ...

And here comes that woderful free market again ... you don't have to pay them if you don't want to.

I know there is an area that is pay but the accuweather discussion and maps I post are free.....anyone can get them

[jimbo]

TPC must chosse the path of least regret, so to speak ... the NWS/NOAA cannot play the role of alarmists without good reason, where Accuweather, being a private sector will seemingly sound the alarm, and in many cases, when it's not warranted ... weather media hype. More times than not, TPC will be right or verify very close well within the cone of probability ...

another issue is erratic shifts and wide variances in scenarios, where the NWS/NOAA/TPC will side on caution, especially when there's a wide shift in statistical outputs, and model guidance ...

Accuweather is trying to get you to PAY for weather information, the NWS does this for nothing ... and by far, are superior to Accuweather ... time and time again ...

SF[/quote]

Tell the folks in Ivan's path that were not in Key West/New Orleans (alarmists anyone). Kinda callous and self serving on your part. Don't like AW, don't watch it. Personnally I prefer to listen to ALL the availble sources, even though I'm not in harm's way so to speak. I even give credence to your forecasts....

[Steve]

I agree with Jimbo. If you don't like them, you don't have to follow them. I sure don't, but I do subscribe to Joe Bastardi at Accuweather Pro. Joe has done yeoman's work this hurricane season and identified legitimate targets in June (though many on this board don't agree with the idea of a landfall intensity forecast). His landfalls haven't been that great, but if you're off by 180-250 miles after making a call 10 days out for a legitimate threat to the CONUS while the NHC "GFS Mongerers" are turning every storm out to sea, then you've done something right.

Problem Accu/TPC and everyone else ran into this weekend was the complex nature of the pattern evolution with the storms already on the map. The stuff changes from day to day. Joe said Jeanne would be a Cat 2 or 3 and would be off the FL Coast by early this week. He said Ivan would split (part would shear off to the NE, part would come back down the east coast and cross into the Gulf - the UK Met 500mb Vorticity Max solution from then). He did a good job with that. But I think he was too fixated on the Besty pattern (trof west CONUS and west Atlantic) and the 1947 storm (as a comparison and contrast to what Ivan would not do). Speaking of Ivan, while his endgame was off, he did have it between Apalachacola and the Mouth of the Mississippi and identified the threat as farther west than east (while the TPC was still wanting to hit Miami).

In my world, you take what you can from all the sources and put something together. You're never going to be 100% right, but you'll end up with a good idea of the possibilities.

Steve

[djti]

this deserves a nostradamaus or joe bastardi poll....whos forecast would you trust more?

ill take nd.