tortuga island just disapear= 26,000 people lost!!!!

[adelphi_sky]

If it was true, it'd be on the news wires.

[ColdWaterConch]

On the Satellite they draw the lines to show the land. If I remember right. As for this not being true. I will not believe so intill real information gets posted or news tells me other wise. I hope its not true.

Yes, lets forgo the use of any logic or reasoning b/c someone posted something on the internet....

[mascpa]

This just can not be true. Must be a communication problem.

[depotoo]

here is a posting regarding Gonaives Haiti
http://help.stormcarib.com/read.php?f=6&i=392&t=392
&
http://help.stormcarib.com/read.php?f=6&i=404&t=404
Sounds really bad there, no island missing, but much of it under water...
has un article in correct English with it.

[HurricaneQueen]

Unbelievable how so many jumped on this link so fast . Guess no one is dozing off at their computer!!!!

[Rainband]

Yes, lets forgo the use of any logic or reasoning b/c someone posted something on the internet....

I believe ,after was has happened so far this year, people are on edge and it's easy to "forgo" these things. Thank God it's not true

[Windy]

Doing a bit of research, the island appears to be mountainous. I can see a small island composed mostly of beach washing away, but a large, mountainous island? Maybe after a meteor strike or something, but not a hurricane...

[Thunder44]

I can't believe people actually believed this.

[djti]

its quite amusing thunder......

[chadtm80]

some posts have been deleted becuase some of you find it necassary to be extremely rude to your fellow board members. Lighten up everyone or take a lil break.. No need to be so rude.. Info was posted to inform everyone. Thats what this board is all about.. If you dont agree with the post or take issue with it.. Just explain your side.. DO NOT put others down.

[chadtm80]

Chad,

I translated the article first cited in the "Tortuga" thread, which is now closed. If you think it's appropriate to post my rough translation, here it is:

VERY ROUGH laymen's translation of that article posted in the intial message of this thread:

An expedition of the UN has been transferred today to the island of the Turtle, in the North coast of Haiti, to evaluate the effects of the storm 'Jeanne'. The first helicopters have not been able to sight the island, where 26,000 people live, and the authorities fear that it has disappeared by the strong surge caused by the storm. At the moment, already they are more than 600 deads in Haiti.

In a first reconasaince (sp) by helicopters Sunday, the Mission of Stabilization of the United Nations (MINUSTAH) could not find the island and that is the reason why it has been decided to send a new expedition today.

The Haitian minister of the Interior, Hérard Abraham, showed his worries about not having been able to run (find? locate?) the inhabitants of Turtle, of 180 kilometers square.

The passage of the storm "Jeanne" by Haiti the past Sunday has caused more than 600 deaths and hundreds of wounded, according to the first accounting that, according to the authorities of this country, are provisional and can be much more tragic as hours pass. The northeast of the country has been the most affected zone, specially the city of Gonaives, where there have been the most bodies-- on Monday there is water to the ceilings of the houses in which they hope to recrue thousands of families.

"there is not a single house in Gonaives that has not been affected", said Gerard Latortue prime minister, who has declared three days of emergency in the country. In addition, the meteorological services have alerted of the evolution of another similar storm, 'Lisa', that it could arrive at the zone in days.

International aid

The temporary president, Boniface Alexandre, has appealed for international aid before tens of world-wide leaders in the General Assembly of the UN. The humanitarian agencies of the United Nations have intensified the shipment of emergency aid. Spokesmen of those agencies said today in Geneva that in the past two days aid has been sent to the cities of Gonaives and Port-of-Paix.

"All of the humanitarian organizations have been mobilized to attend the regions devastaded" most;, a spokesman of the Medical UN Without Borders has said. The Red Cross has at the moment sentto five delegates to the zone and has predicted to send another four more make an evaluation of the effects of storms. In as much, the World-wide Organization of Health (the WHO) has started up an urgency program to avoid the introduction of epidemics-- medicine distribution includes medical equipment and tablets for the purification of the water.

--AGAIN VERY ROUGH, QUICK TRANSLATION WITH THE HELP OF BABELFISH. Next to last paragraph may have verbal inaccuracies that change whether the paragraph means help has been sent to, or from Gonaives and Port of Paix. Had trouble with that one.

Hope this helps a bit!
chris

[depotoo]

not the same island- but some info from the UN regarding this one further down
http://help.stormcarib.com/read.php?f=6&i=404&t=404
also - this length has pics from the devastation -
http://www.stormcarib.com/reports/2004/haiti.shtml

unbelievable!

[Sanibel]

I guess Derek underestimated the number of dead from Jeanne. I couldn't believe an 80mph hurricane that went down to 45mph could have caused such destruction.

The deforestation must be worse than thought. I also have a hard time believing such a surge from such a weak storm. The area where Tortoise Island is is where Jeanne was only 45mph.

Haiti must really be in bad shape to suffer such loses. On the other hand, Jeanne was much wose than the satellite was telling as far as rain. Those deep reds really panned out...

[Kludge]

It's gotta be true. CBS just showed the memo describing it.

[depotoo]

Fox news has reported on it as well now.

[vbhoutex]

Fox news has reported on it as well now.

What have they reporrted?

[Brent]

It's gotta be true. CBS just showed the memo describing it.

[FritzPaul]

until seeBS picks this story up......i aint believin it.

Then I'm still not believing it.

[depotoo]

news from Haiti

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&t ... &cat=Haiti

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=u ... earch+News

[Persepone]

Actually, there were initial reports on French and Haitian sites that the island was completely submerged. And there were no communications, so they feared the worst. Today BBC reports that it was "not as bad as first thought..." on LaTortue (the tortise) island.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3679636.stm

"Haiti's prime minister has warned of the threat of a serious outbreak of disease after devastating flooding caused by Tropical Storm Jeanne.

More than 700 people are now known to have died after Jeanne battered Haiti.

Aid agencies fear the toll will mount as 1,000 are missing and rotting bodies float in flooded urban areas. "

"A UN spokesman said the corpses had to be buried in mass graves as soon as possible, to try to stop disease spreading.

The UN World Food Programme (WFP) estimates 175,000 people are without food, water and electricity and in need of help. "

What frosts me is that here on local news (do not have cable) there has been NOTHING--ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this! There has been very little on the destruction in Cayman Islands. There has been nothing on Puerto Rico! Nothing in local newspapers either...

I have monitored European sites (British, French) and Storm 2K--otherwise I would not even know about this... And I wonder how many others here in the US think that disasters somehow didn't really happen since they were not in the American news... Very disturbing to see another instance of the depth of insularity of news.