Despite all the bashing NC's forumers have received on this site, I wanted to remind everyone that this year, NC has been impacted by 6 tropical systems...more than any other state.
This isn't something to be proud of just a reminder, amid all the banter about Florida's suffering, that NC is also taking a beating.
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NC's 6th Tropical System
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panichead4469
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Re: NC's 6th Tropical System
CLTRDU wrote:Despite all the bashing NC's forumers have received on this site, I wanted to remind everyone that this year, NC has been impacted by 6 tropical systems...more than any other state.
This isn't something to be proud of just a reminder, amid all the banter about Florida's suffering, that NC is also taking a beating.
Thanks.
what you want a brownie pin or something???.......Mods delete this post...
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What heartless scum. Delete? Why? Because it offends you? If you're upset that Texas hasn't been hit this year then maybe you should talk to a doctor.
The point is this, Carolinians need a place to discuss the storms that have impacted us as much as anyone without being bashed by people like you. If it offends you, don't look, or better yet, talk to the woman who lost her infant son, an unborn child, and her leg in a landslide courtesy of Ivan.
The point is this, Carolinians need a place to discuss the storms that have impacted us as much as anyone without being bashed by people like you. If it offends you, don't look, or better yet, talk to the woman who lost her infant son, an unborn child, and her leg in a landslide courtesy of Ivan.
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CLTRDU wrote:What heartless scum. Delete? Why? Because it offends you? If you're upset that Texas hasn't been hit this year then maybe you should talk to a doctor.
The point is this, Carolinians need a place to discuss the storms that have impacted us as much as anyone without being bashed by people like you. If it offends you, don't look, or better yet, talk to the woman who lost her infant son, an unborn child, and her leg in a landslide courtesy of Ivan.
Look, your quote sounds like your not getting enough attention in NC from the board. This is not a CONTEST who gets what and how much death and destruction one gets. It is forum to discuss weather related topics not some GAME. As far as not getting anything in TX, I thank god for that. We were lucky this year and I pray we stay that way. You know my dog barks when I dont show it attention. I wonder if there some sort of correlation between the two....hmmmmm
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The majority of the Southeast is taking a beating. No matter whether in Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia.
I don't know what "final death tolls" will be for Florida, Alabama, North Carolina, or any other state. No matter how many each state has lost its always going to be someone's parent, sibling, spouse, or child, and no matter what, it's going to bring grief.
To compare such a thing seems silly.
I don't know what "final death tolls" will be for Florida, Alabama, North Carolina, or any other state. No matter how many each state has lost its always going to be someone's parent, sibling, spouse, or child, and no matter what, it's going to bring grief.
To compare such a thing seems silly.
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simplyme wrote:The majority of the Southeast is taking a beating. No matter whether in Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia.
I don't know what "final death tolls" will be for Florida, Alabama, North Carolina, or any other state. No matter how many each state has lost its always going to be someone's parent, sibling, spouse, or child, and no matter what, it's going to bring grief.
To compare such a thing seems silly.
excellent post. I was going to try saying something along those lines but I am a heartless scum...
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In my opinion, you are jealous, or bored, or neglected. You haven't had time to find anything else to do but zero-in on a thread that is specific to the Carolinas?
The original post I made clarified that this isn't a pissing contest but you appear determined to make it one. In fact, you began by saying that the thread should be banned but never explained why.
The original post I made clarified that this isn't a pissing contest but you appear determined to make it one. In fact, you began by saying that the thread should be banned but never explained why.
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[/quote]excellent post. I was going to try saying something along those lines but I am a heartless scum... [/quote]
Nice smiley face. To belittle the experiences of the people of my state, you are heartless scum. To reiterate, talk to the woman who lost her infant son, an unborn child, and her leg in a landslide courtesy of Ivan.
If the national news won't report it, then it should be posted here.
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Nice smiley face. To belittle the experiences of the people of my state, you are heartless scum. To reiterate, talk to the woman who lost her infant son, an unborn child, and her leg in a landslide courtesy of Ivan.
If the national news won't report it, then it should be posted here.
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CLTRDU please understand how your first post might come across to someone...
You talk about how NC's six tropical systems are more then any other state, seems to make it a contest... perhaps that wasn't the intention, but try to understand how it might be taken in a light other then the one intended.
Then you talk about the "banter" about Florida's suffering - again, think of how your words come across. In my mind, banter means light hearted chatter.... which is hard to stomach in the same sentence as the destruction that Florida has seen this year.
I'm not bashing you, I'm trying to get you to understand how your first post might have provoked a reaction other then the one you wanted. Everyone deserves a spot to talk about what they're going through... Florida, North Carolina, Canada, the Dominican Republic, etc... just consider how your post might come across to others reading it.
You talk about how NC's six tropical systems are more then any other state, seems to make it a contest... perhaps that wasn't the intention, but try to understand how it might be taken in a light other then the one intended.
Then you talk about the "banter" about Florida's suffering - again, think of how your words come across. In my mind, banter means light hearted chatter.... which is hard to stomach in the same sentence as the destruction that Florida has seen this year.
I'm not bashing you, I'm trying to get you to understand how your first post might have provoked a reaction other then the one you wanted. Everyone deserves a spot to talk about what they're going through... Florida, North Carolina, Canada, the Dominican Republic, etc... just consider how your post might come across to others reading it.
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SOOOOOOOOOO funny, Rock...
One person missing after landslide that claimed 4 lives, officials say
By Jon Ostendorff, Staff Writer
Sept. 20, 2004 11:38 p.m.
FRANKLIN - With one person still missing, searchers used cadaver dogs Monday to sniff through the twisted rubble of the Peeks Creek community in southern Macon County.
Authorities said a landslide that sent homes crashing one against the other killed least four people, including an unborn child whose mother remained in critical condition. She had been seven months pregnant.
Tropical Storm Ivan produced a wall of water, mud, rocks and trees that barreled through the community. The creek, typically 6-feet wide, swelled to a torrential river more than 50-yards wide, wiping out homes in its path.
Searchers found partial human remains but had not determined whether they were those of an individual listed as missing, said Warren Cabe, emergency services director.
Cabe identified the bodies of those found in the Peeks Creek landslide as: Sharon McCollum, 54, of Franklin; Colton McCollum, 3, of Franklin; Kattie Watts, no age available, of Pensacola, Fla.
Sharon McCollum was Colton McCollum's grandmother. Bryant Funeral home is handling the service. The obituaries were incomplete Monday evening.
Cabe said Watts' husband, James, was still missing. The couple came to stay with family in Macon County to avoid Ivan's direct hit on the Florida Panhandle.
Law enforcement officers blocked access to the small cove community near U.S. 64 between Franklin and Highlands while search and rescue workers continued sifting through the rubble.
The landslide left twisted clumps of trees scattered across what had been a road along the bank of the creek.
The trees were stripped clean of their bark by the force of the water. Boulders knee-high and 4 feet wide were stacked along the once-calm creek bank. The landslide left the road barley visible under mud and rock. Houses were pushed off their foundations and sent down the mountain.
One person missing after landslide that claimed 4 lives, officials say
By Jon Ostendorff, Staff Writer
Sept. 20, 2004 11:38 p.m.
FRANKLIN - With one person still missing, searchers used cadaver dogs Monday to sniff through the twisted rubble of the Peeks Creek community in southern Macon County.
Authorities said a landslide that sent homes crashing one against the other killed least four people, including an unborn child whose mother remained in critical condition. She had been seven months pregnant.
Tropical Storm Ivan produced a wall of water, mud, rocks and trees that barreled through the community. The creek, typically 6-feet wide, swelled to a torrential river more than 50-yards wide, wiping out homes in its path.
Searchers found partial human remains but had not determined whether they were those of an individual listed as missing, said Warren Cabe, emergency services director.
Cabe identified the bodies of those found in the Peeks Creek landslide as: Sharon McCollum, 54, of Franklin; Colton McCollum, 3, of Franklin; Kattie Watts, no age available, of Pensacola, Fla.
Sharon McCollum was Colton McCollum's grandmother. Bryant Funeral home is handling the service. The obituaries were incomplete Monday evening.
Cabe said Watts' husband, James, was still missing. The couple came to stay with family in Macon County to avoid Ivan's direct hit on the Florida Panhandle.
Law enforcement officers blocked access to the small cove community near U.S. 64 between Franklin and Highlands while search and rescue workers continued sifting through the rubble.
The landslide left twisted clumps of trees scattered across what had been a road along the bank of the creek.
The trees were stripped clean of their bark by the force of the water. Boulders knee-high and 4 feet wide were stacked along the once-calm creek bank. The landslide left the road barley visible under mud and rock. Houses were pushed off their foundations and sent down the mountain.
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let's just agree that hurricanes (though fascinating in strength, size, impact, etc.) SUCK!!! especially major ones that impact anything other than the fish...
i agree that the carolinas have gotten many systems this year (mostly as damaging remnants) but that admission does not belittle the suffering done at ground zero of these major storms.
ROCK i do think you guys have been lucky...and next year who knows? but for now we in the carolinas are constantly on edge as many of these systems this year have had forecast racks going right over us (constantly on guard here) or actual systems making landfall (charley and gaston and alex i believe) or remnants such as those from frances--at one time forecast to go right over charleston,sc--, charley, ivan, bonnie...
it's not like CLTRDU is asking for a brownie pin as you put it...to me it just sounds like they're making a statement--trying to elicite some response from fellow people on the message board...albeit a response was given--seems like a negative one that has escalated.
but you should realize that many in the carolinas are without homes....are full of water...cannot drive on once familiar roads..etc....and therefore are on edge and stressed (possibly as much as those in fla.---POSSIBLY)
i know texas has seen its fair share of foul weather earlier this year if i'm not mistaken...flooding, etc.. this has become an almost weekly event for us here and a little compassion vs. bashing goes a long way!
i agree that the carolinas have gotten many systems this year (mostly as damaging remnants) but that admission does not belittle the suffering done at ground zero of these major storms.
ROCK i do think you guys have been lucky...and next year who knows? but for now we in the carolinas are constantly on edge as many of these systems this year have had forecast racks going right over us (constantly on guard here) or actual systems making landfall (charley and gaston and alex i believe) or remnants such as those from frances--at one time forecast to go right over charleston,sc--, charley, ivan, bonnie...
it's not like CLTRDU is asking for a brownie pin as you put it...to me it just sounds like they're making a statement--trying to elicite some response from fellow people on the message board...albeit a response was given--seems like a negative one that has escalated.
but you should realize that many in the carolinas are without homes....are full of water...cannot drive on once familiar roads..etc....and therefore are on edge and stressed (possibly as much as those in fla.---POSSIBLY)
i know texas has seen its fair share of foul weather earlier this year if i'm not mistaken...flooding, etc.. this has become an almost weekly event for us here and a little compassion vs. bashing goes a long way!
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More Chuckles, Rock...
In Buncombe alone, damages could reach up to $200 million
By Rebeccah Cantley-Falk, STAFF WRITER
Sept. 20, 2004 11:42 p.m.
ASHEVILLE - The cost of damage from remains of Hurricane Frances and Tropical Storm Ivan is still being assessed, but a Buncombe County official estimates the figure to be about $200 million in his county alone.
Recovery in some areas could take up to a year, Buncombe Emergency Services Director Jerry VeHaun said Monday. Buncombe County suffered about $100 million in damages during Frances and at least that much during Ivan, he said.
"People are still out trying to figure out what they've lost and where they stand," VeHaun said. "(Ivan) could be $150 million or even more than that. We really didn't have time to go out and assess the first storm before we were in the second one."
In addition to the loss of homes and businesses, Buncombe County suffered damages to roads and bridges and will need funds to restore creek banks, VeHaun said. He also has concerns about farmers.
VeHaun asked Gov. Mike Easley on Monday to secure federal funds for devastated agricultural areas. Damages to crops such as tomatoes, tobacco and hay are widespread, he said. VeHaun and other Western North Carolina officials met with Easley during a news conference at the Asheville Regional Airport.
And officials say at least nine people in WNC were victims of the storm, which killed two men in Buncombe County, a man in Henderson County and women in Haywood and Yancey counties.
Here are other developments in our continued coverage of Frances and Ivan:
The Department of Transportation hopes to begin construction of two retaining walls along Interstate 40 within the next few weeks, Conrad Burrell, a member of the North Carolina Board of Transportation, said.
Part of I-40 in Haywood County fell into the Pigeon River during Tropical Storm Ivan. The walls will stabilize the road and prevent further slipping, Burrell said. The project is expected to take six months to a year. Burrell had no cost estimates for the repair work.
Progress Energy crews worked Monday to restore power to the last 9,474 customers of 96,000 who lost power. Nearly all still without power were in Buncombe County.
As of 7 p.m. Monday, Duke Power had restored service to all but 5,867 customers in Henderson County and 102 customers in Transylvania County, said Tom Williams, spokesman with Duke Power. The utility estimates that 90 percent of customers currently without service should be back on line by 11 p.m. Wednesday, and that many should have power sooner.
Haywood Electrical Membership Corp. said 866 members were still without electricity. It hoped to restore power by Monday night to users in Haywood, Buncombe and Transylvania counties, as well as the Bear Lake area in Jackson County. The company also hoped to have Highlands, Cashiers and the Scaly Mountain area restored by today.
Avondale Heights and Rainbow Hill Drive in Fairview will remain under a boil water advisory until power is restored to the Avondale pump and water quality testing is complete Wednesday.
Bee Tree Lake Road, Harrison Hill Road, Woodburn Road, Hillside and Sunset in Swannanoa will remain under a boil water advisory until water quality testing is complete today.
Henry Johnson, mayor of Laurel Park in Henderson County, said residents should continue to conserve water until power is fully restored to the town. Laurel Park uses the city of Hendersonville's water supply, Johnson said, but operates five pumps to manage water to the town.
The U.S. Forest Service estimates that Frances and Ivan caused up to $40 million in damage to roads, bridges, trails and Forest Service facilities in the Pisgah and Nantahala national forests.
Mount Mitchell State Park remained closed Monday. Downed trees are blocking access, and park buildings also sustained roof damage, Charlie Peek, spokesman for the N.C. Division of Parks and Recreation, said. He said it's not clear when the park will reopen.
By Rebeccah Cantley-Falk, STAFF WRITER
Sept. 20, 2004 11:42 p.m.
ASHEVILLE - The cost of damage from remains of Hurricane Frances and Tropical Storm Ivan is still being assessed, but a Buncombe County official estimates the figure to be about $200 million in his county alone.
Recovery in some areas could take up to a year, Buncombe Emergency Services Director Jerry VeHaun said Monday. Buncombe County suffered about $100 million in damages during Frances and at least that much during Ivan, he said.
"People are still out trying to figure out what they've lost and where they stand," VeHaun said. "(Ivan) could be $150 million or even more than that. We really didn't have time to go out and assess the first storm before we were in the second one."
In addition to the loss of homes and businesses, Buncombe County suffered damages to roads and bridges and will need funds to restore creek banks, VeHaun said. He also has concerns about farmers.
VeHaun asked Gov. Mike Easley on Monday to secure federal funds for devastated agricultural areas. Damages to crops such as tomatoes, tobacco and hay are widespread, he said. VeHaun and other Western North Carolina officials met with Easley during a news conference at the Asheville Regional Airport.
And officials say at least nine people in WNC were victims of the storm, which killed two men in Buncombe County, a man in Henderson County and women in Haywood and Yancey counties.
Here are other developments in our continued coverage of Frances and Ivan:
The Department of Transportation hopes to begin construction of two retaining walls along Interstate 40 within the next few weeks, Conrad Burrell, a member of the North Carolina Board of Transportation, said.
Part of I-40 in Haywood County fell into the Pigeon River during Tropical Storm Ivan. The walls will stabilize the road and prevent further slipping, Burrell said. The project is expected to take six months to a year. Burrell had no cost estimates for the repair work.
Progress Energy crews worked Monday to restore power to the last 9,474 customers of 96,000 who lost power. Nearly all still without power were in Buncombe County.
As of 7 p.m. Monday, Duke Power had restored service to all but 5,867 customers in Henderson County and 102 customers in Transylvania County, said Tom Williams, spokesman with Duke Power. The utility estimates that 90 percent of customers currently without service should be back on line by 11 p.m. Wednesday, and that many should have power sooner.
Haywood Electrical Membership Corp. said 866 members were still without electricity. It hoped to restore power by Monday night to users in Haywood, Buncombe and Transylvania counties, as well as the Bear Lake area in Jackson County. The company also hoped to have Highlands, Cashiers and the Scaly Mountain area restored by today.
Avondale Heights and Rainbow Hill Drive in Fairview will remain under a boil water advisory until power is restored to the Avondale pump and water quality testing is complete Wednesday.
Bee Tree Lake Road, Harrison Hill Road, Woodburn Road, Hillside and Sunset in Swannanoa will remain under a boil water advisory until water quality testing is complete today.
Henry Johnson, mayor of Laurel Park in Henderson County, said residents should continue to conserve water until power is fully restored to the town. Laurel Park uses the city of Hendersonville's water supply, Johnson said, but operates five pumps to manage water to the town.
The U.S. Forest Service estimates that Frances and Ivan caused up to $40 million in damage to roads, bridges, trails and Forest Service facilities in the Pisgah and Nantahala national forests.
Mount Mitchell State Park remained closed Monday. Downed trees are blocking access, and park buildings also sustained roof damage, Charlie Peek, spokesman for the N.C. Division of Parks and Recreation, said. He said it's not clear when the park will reopen.
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TO ALL of the above posters:
I think the whole point of the original post was to say that areas other then just FL. have been hurt by these hurricanes/storms.(most of us know this, of course) The original poster also made a point of mentioning the "bashing" of NC posters on the board. Unfortunatly, at one point, this had happened but since the mods have cracked down, it does not happen as often,if at all. (THANK YOU, MODS!!)
CLTRDU is entitled to voice an opinion, without sarcastic comments such as "what you want a brownie pin or something???.......Mods delete this post..."
For those who have comments like that to make, think before typing it. Does not sound very well thought out and seems to be very unkind to others that have also suffered. Lack of empathy has no place here, in my opinion.
I think the whole point of the original post was to say that areas other then just FL. have been hurt by these hurricanes/storms.(most of us know this, of course) The original poster also made a point of mentioning the "bashing" of NC posters on the board. Unfortunatly, at one point, this had happened but since the mods have cracked down, it does not happen as often,if at all. (THANK YOU, MODS!!)
CLTRDU is entitled to voice an opinion, without sarcastic comments such as "what you want a brownie pin or something???.......Mods delete this post..."
For those who have comments like that to make, think before typing it. Does not sound very well thought out and seems to be very unkind to others that have also suffered. Lack of empathy has no place here, in my opinion.
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