Models do shift right...

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Models do shift right...

#1 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:18 pm

From the last run.....

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#2 Postby huricanwatcher » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:20 pm

look out williamston.......... jeanne coming to pay a vist....... mark my words!!!!
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#3 Postby cape_escape » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:21 pm

This could be good news for Florida then...right??
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#4 Postby Scorpion » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:22 pm

I take it huricanwatcher is the same guy as hurricane_lover? And no, this is not good news for FL. It has it skimming the coast, so instead of one part of the coastline being damaged the whole coast is.
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#5 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:23 pm

Scorpion wrote:I take it huricanwatcher is the same guy as hurricane_lover?


hurricane_lover was in miami.....but i guess you could put anything????
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#6 Postby krisj » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:23 pm

Nah, not with 418 posts!
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#7 Postby tronbunny » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:23 pm

oh boy, A98E wants to visit Fidel again!
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#8 Postby cinlfla » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:23 pm

We just might be spared after all if they keep shifting to the right.
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#9 Postby cape_escape » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:25 pm

Scorpion wrote:I take it huricanwatcher is the same guy as hurricane_lover? And no, this is not good news for FL. It has it skimming the coast, so instead of one part of the coastline being damaged the whole coast is.


Oh, it couldn't turn enough to miss Florida? At least it doesn't look like a landfall.
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#10 Postby jjfl » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:25 pm

OK...Some people say the models are shifting right....Others are insistant that they are not. Is everyone sure they are looking at the most up to date graphics??? could Mike Watkins or one of the other S2k Forcasters clear this up please?????
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#11 Postby cinlfla » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:29 pm

jjfl wrote:OK...Some people say the models are shifting right....Others are insistant that they are not. Is everyone sure they are looking at the most up to date graphics??? could Mike Watkins or one of the other S2k Forcasters clear this up please?????



Please do, I am ready to return some of this extra stuff I bought today if I'm not going to need it although I would keep enough in case of another threat. My husband is going out to buy a chain saw after work tomarrow but really if we arn't going to need it I would like to wait till bills are paid after the 1st
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#12 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:31 pm

cinlfla wrote:
jjfl wrote:OK...Some people say the models are shifting right....Others are insistant that they are not. Is everyone sure they are looking at the most up to date graphics??? could Mike Watkins or one of the other S2k Forcasters clear this up please?????



Please do, I am ready to return some of this extra stuff I bought today if I'm not going to need it although I would keep enough in case of another threat. My husband is going out to buy a chain saw after work tomarrow but really if we arn't going to need it I would like to wait till bills are paid after the 1st


These are models....they are not accurate all the time! You need to keep your stuff....because NO ONE knows where this will go!
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#13 Postby Scorpion » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:31 pm

Why are some people suddenly saying this isnt hitting FL?? Look at the models, it certainly is! Granted its not as far south as before, the models for Frances had this even more north. And we all know where Frances came in.
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#14 Postby Zadok » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:33 pm

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#15 Postby chris_fit » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:34 pm

Where do you people see this as good news for FL?

This is terrible for me in Melbourne, right over my house, then riding up the coast.

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That what I want to know

#16 Postby stormandan28 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:35 pm

Looks the same as earlier?
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#17 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:36 pm

IMO, it's WORSE for Florida because instead of going inland, it'll rake the entire coast from say the northern part of Miami up. It'll weaken less too.
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#18 Postby SouthernWx » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:37 pm

A word of caution...those are not the only track models available. The current NOGAPS progs Jeanne across southern Florida (FLL to TPA) then recurves it into the panhandle.
The ECMWF isn't shown on that SFWMD hurricane page either.

There are also several models that are unavailable to the public...including the experimental NASA model, the GFDN, and the FSU superensemble. I haven't seen any of these, but reportedly the NASA track model also forecast Jeanne across southern Florida into the eastern Gulf of Mexico.

I always base my forecast on the available guidance, the overall current and forecast synoptic weather pattern, and hurricane climatology; but if the NOGAPS and NASA models are correct, my forecast track is likely too far to the right.
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#19 Postby Scorpion » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:38 pm

Good for inland and west coast, bad for us east coasters.
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#20 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:38 pm

The grid of tropical models on this are based on the GFS, initially the furthest south, then quickly become the furthest EAST of all the globals ...

this was the 18z tropical models including the NOGAPS, GFDN (same as the GFDL except run on the NOGAPS grid), GFDI (Interpolated GFDL), UKMI (UKMET), etc ... waiting the 00z graphic ...

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