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Can you answer this one ? ( Jeanne )

#1 Postby WaryEye » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:55 pm

If Hurricane Jeanne stays on this currrent due west track and does not shift wnw ... where in Florida will she make landfall?
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#2 Postby yoda » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:57 pm

Use the NHC map.. and draw a line right over directly west... :D
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#3 Postby Dmetal81 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:59 pm

26.1N, between Miami (25.4) and Ft Lauderdale (26.4)
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#4 Postby WaryEye » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:02 am

Very Amusing, Yoda.

I am aware of the models and of the NHC's forecast. Did it occur to you that maybe some of us have grown tired of the models predictions over the past few weeks and that we may take more stock in some of the opinions of others on this board? :roll:

Thanks DMetal.... I appreciate the response as it was lacking in sarcasm.
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#5 Postby yoda » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:04 am

WaryEye wrote:Very Amusing, Yoda.

I am aware of the models and of the NHC's forecast. Did it occur to you that maybe some of us have grown tired of the models predictions over the past few weeks and that we may take more stock in some of the opinions of others on this board? :roll:

Thanks DMetal.... I appreciate the response as it was lacking in sarcasm.


Wha? OK.. I am sorry. I didn't mean that. I was joking around... so I am sorry.
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#6 Postby Windy » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:06 am

WaryEye wrote:Very Amusing, Yoda.

I am aware of the models and of the NHC's forecast. Did it occur to you that maybe some of us have grown tired of the models predictions over the past few weeks and that we may take more stock in some of the opinions of others on this board? :roll:

Thanks DMetal.... I appreciate the response as it was lacking in sarcasm.


Most of the opinions on this board are formed by people looking at the models. The professional mets, I'm guessing, are the only ones doing pen and paper forecasting to go with it. The NHC is 10X better, so just look at their track. Where the line intersects Florida -- that's where it will probably landfall.
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#7 Postby mobilebay » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:07 am

WaryEye wrote:Very Amusing, Yoda.

I am aware of the models and of the NHC's forecast. Did it occur to you that maybe some of us have grown tired of the models predictions over the past few weeks and that we may take more stock in some of the opinions of others on this board? :roll:

Thanks DMetal.... I appreciate the response as it was lacking in sarcasm.

I don't see where his comment was out of line. You asked a common since question, and he gave you a common since answer. Back off!
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#8 Postby WaryEye » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:07 am

Not a problem.... yikes I guess I am so stressed out from all these hurricanes that I can't see a joke when it is posted. Sorry... didn't meant to be jumpy. I am scared for the Floridians and I have extended family in Boca Raton. :(
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#9 Postby yoda » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:09 am

OK ladies and gents.. its over now..

*Waves hand* nothing to see here... :D

But I doubt Jeanne goes Due West...
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#10 Postby WaryEye » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:10 am

Hey Mobile, why don't you relax? I just posted a reply to yoda as I misunderstood and now I see you overreacting as well? Really, if you are going to try and speak intelligently about common "sense" you might learn how to spell it first. I am a 28 year old mother of two and I don't have the time to check out all of the models all day long. Getting an opinion here is much easier.
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#11 Postby yoda » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:11 am

yoda wrote:OK ladies and gents.. its over now..

*Waves hand* nothing to see here... :D

But I doubt Jeanne goes Due West...
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#12 Postby mobilebay » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:14 am

WaryEye wrote:Hey Mobile, why don't you relax? I just posted a reply to yoda as I misunderstood and now I see you overreacting as well? Really, if you are going to try and speak intelligently about common "sense" you might learn how to spell it first. I am a 28 year old mother of two and I don't have the time to check out all of the models all day long. Getting an opinion here is much easier.

No "sence" beating a dead horse. I'm sorry. 8-) :lol: :lol:
I still spelled it wrong. One more try= SENSE :oops: :oops:
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#13 Postby WaryEye » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:16 am

Okay, group hug.... (((mobile & yoda))) . Waving white flag... we are all on edge understandably. :oops:
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#14 Postby Dmetal81 » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:18 am

*group hug*! :clap: no sense in getting stressed quite yet, we've got a long weekend ahead of us.
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#15 Postby yoda » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:18 am

WaryEye wrote:Okay, group hug.... (((mobile & yoda))) . Waving white flag... we are all on edge understandably. :oops:


Yes we are... peace all! :D

New topic anyone?
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#16 Postby ColdFront77 » Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:48 am

Forecast models have to be used in order to get a grasp of what is going on around the system. Sure, there used for guidance, but the guidance and model trends [along with the official National Hurricane Center Forecast Track trends] are important in figuring out each initial position and the general expectation to a more precise area of direction (and landfall).

As for Jeanne's due west movement between 11:00 PM to 2:00 AM Eastern at 26.1°N continuing throughout the next 36+ hours, landfall WOULD be just over a mile ENE of Port Everglades.

I have absolutely no disrespect to Dmetal's reply, whatsoever.
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#17 Postby Dmetal81 » Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:49 am

ColdFront77 wrote:Forecast models have to be used in order to get a grasp of what is going on around the system. Sure, there used for guidance, but the guidance and model trends -- along with the official National Hurricane Center Forecast Tracks -- are important in figuring out each initial position and the general expectation to a more precise area of direction (and landfall).

As for Jeanne's due west movement between 11:00 PM to 2:00 AM Eastern at 26.1°N continuing throughout the next 36+ hours, landfall WOULD be just over a mile ENE of Port Everglades.

I have absolutely no disrespect to Dmetal's reply, whatsoever.


Ill take your word for it, you're the statistician :)
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#18 Postby inotherwords » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:24 am

I am a 28 year old mother of two and I don't have the time to check out all of the models all day long. Getting an opinion here is much easier.


Well, this is just my opinion and I hope you don't get offended by it, but if you are that busy and looking for the best info I'd suggest you stick with the NHC forecasts posted 4x a day (5am, 11am, 5pm, 11pm) at noaa.org. Getting an opinion here may seem easier, but the opinions here are literally all over the map, so for non-mets, discerning what's a good opinion and what's not, and the fact that opinions change every few minutes or so on this board depending on whatever wobble a storm is making at the time, makes this option even more time consuming than checking out the models all day long, which you say you don't want to do anyway. While the signal to noise ratio seems to be good on this board, there is still a lot of noise.

The NHC 3 day tracks and forecasts have been very good this year if you look at the cone and not the line. The pros have their jobs for a reason. But this board is fascinating if you want to spend a lot of time learning about the nuances of storms and absorbing information about why various hobbyists and semi-pros think the way they do. However, if you are a busy mom it doesn't sound like you have the time for sorting all this out. I'd stick with the NHC and your local mets.
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#19 Postby Innotech » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:37 am

I think boarding up your house and spending an extended vacation in Nebraska is really a good idea at this point.
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