1100 dead, 1250 missing in Haiti, nobody cares

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#21 Postby chicagopizza » Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:38 am

I think sometimes there just are no words to say because the situation is so dreadful. It's scary how numbing daily broadcasts of tragedy are becoming-like it is the rule rather than the exception.

I guess the most we can do is have hope it will get better, have faith that God will be with them, and love our families that much more because they are still around to love.
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#22 Postby abajan » Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:11 am

It is not only the U.S that seems to turn a blind eye to Haiti. We in the Caribbean also largely ignore them.

Sadly, some human beings are considered more valuable than others. This is, and has always been, the order of things in the world.
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#23 Postby GulfHills » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:51 am

I just haven't been able to get up to date the last few days as I've been taking care of my very sick little grandson. (He's a lot better now)

I did find this article which says help is coming

http://www.dailyherald.com/news_story.a ... d=38254419
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#24 Postby rdcrds » Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:53 am

that is harsh to say nobody cares.Some may not care but in my case i have kids who ride my sunday schhol bus who have brothers there and i do care but there is nothing i can do.I can barley put Gas in my car now here in Florida so not much help i can be BUT I DO CARE.
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#25 Postby tronbunny » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:02 am

I would not say nobody cares....
Back when Jeanne was leaving the island I asked if anyone had news of Haiti.
It took nearly a week to get this news.
We care, problem is political. Not a US problem, it is a Haitian/Carribbean problem.
The people of that impoverished nation have very strong political opinions, that are detrimental to their wel-being in general.
Many have tried to help, many have failed.
We will continue to help in whatever capacity is feasible.
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#26 Postby hibiscushouse » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:28 am

I did find this article which says help is coming

That article describes nothing but desperation, chaos and tragedy. :(
I've grown increasingly concerned, over the last couple of days, that help is far to slow in coming to these people.
And I have been wondering where the calvary is as well. Seems like there should be an explosion of effort and assistance streaming towards these people.
I don't think he meant no one cares, in the sense of people around us, but my take on this comment was internationally, it seems as no one cares. In the form of massive, immediate help from the international community. Not only in the form of money, but also of supplies and manpower and organization of it all. Is this not feasible?
I find myself getting more and more frustrated at their plight.
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#27 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:33 am

Well sorry for seeming insensitive but we've got important things going on here as well. Jeanne is threatening to be the 4th hurricane to hit Florida in 6 weeks.
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#28 Postby cswitwer » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:40 am

The UN has been sending supplies since Monday, if I read one of the early reports correctly.
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#29 Postby MBryant » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:47 am

Once the kickback agreements have been locked down, the aid from the UN should begin to arrive.
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#30 Postby otowntiger » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:55 am

Tertius wrote:The situation in Haiti is absolutely horrid for much of the population and has been for some time now. You are correct that most of us in the US seem rather apathetic to the situation there; the invasion of armed rebels which overthrew President Aristide there was met with a collective yawn.

I don't want to get political here though I fear that perhaps I already have. Suffice to say that huge percentages of a nation's population living in abject poverty coupled with a government that has few resources to bring to bear and even less of an inclination to do so results in people being completely unable to protect themselves from the worst that Mother Nature dishes out. It is sad, and worse yet it is commonplace.


It is truly very sad indeed. That country has to be the most fragile country in the world. They hardly faced the "worst that Mother Nature dishes out"
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#31 Postby mb229 » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:12 am

Each Carribbean nation has established a 'go it alone' economic policy. None of them have the population or natural resources to establish a robust economy, capable of absorbing a significant negative event such as a hurricane.

The nations of the Carribbean could be better off if they unified their economies, and perhaps, their political dynamics as well. This could lead to a better standard of living for all, and establish an economic and political basis for better responses to natural disasters.

This is not a short putt.
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#32 Postby ColdWaterConch » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:19 am

hibiscushouse wrote:
I did find this article which says help is coming

That article describes nothing but desperation, chaos and tragedy. :(
I've grown increasingly concerned, over the last couple of days, that help is far to slow in coming to these people.
And I have been wondering where the calvary is as well. Seems like there should be an explosion of effort and assistance streaming towards these people.
I don't think he meant no one cares, in the sense of people around us, but my take on this comment was internationally, it seems as no one cares. In the form of massive, immediate help from the international community. Not only in the form of money, but also of supplies and manpower and organization of it all. Is this not feasible?
I find myself getting more and more frustrated at their plight.


THe international community has been attempting to assist Haiti for decades....at some point, the people there need to turn things around.

The reason this storm was so bad stems directly from the political and social mess that this country has become...people are dirt poor, and cut down all the trees. The UN goes in and plants more, and they keep cutting them down. And without any vegetation, massive mudslides happen.

It is a tragedy, but also one that is of their own making.
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#33 Postby msbee » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:20 am

the death toll in Haiti keeps rising. The numbers are staggering.
Jeanne killed, yes, with her floods, but it's really the poverty that kills.
Poor infrastructure, poror housing, deforestation.. And how can you stop deforestation and cutting tres for charcoal when many people do not have regular electricity and even if they did, could not afford to buy stoves, or cooking gas.
One problem begets another.
There are drives on our island currently to donate food,water and clothing to Haiti. It's a drop in the bucket but we do whatever we can.
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#34 Postby hibiscushouse » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:27 am

I hear what you all are saying. And Brent, I know we have our own problems here. I am a Floridian. :roll: I just feel for them so much. As a Mom, I can't imagine being stuck up on a roof that my family had to escape to, with my young kids, with no food, or safe water to drink, with the clothes on my back, with no protection from the sun, and looking down at a bunch of muddy, contaminated water below me. And no help in sight. How desperate that must be.
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#35 Postby Houstonia » Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:52 am

ColdWaterConch wrote:
hibiscushouse wrote:
I did find this article which says help is coming

That article describes nothing but desperation, chaos and tragedy. :(
I've grown increasingly concerned, over the last couple of days, that help is far to slow in coming to these people.
And I have been wondering where the calvary is as well. Seems like there should be an explosion of effort and assistance streaming towards these people.
I don't think he meant no one cares, in the sense of people around us, but my take on this comment was internationally, it seems as no one cares. In the form of massive, immediate help from the international community. Not only in the form of money, but also of supplies and manpower and organization of it all. Is this not feasible?
I find myself getting more and more frustrated at their plight.


THe international community has been attempting to assist Haiti for decades....at some point, the people there need to turn things around.

The reason this storm was so bad stems directly from the political and social mess that this country has become...people are dirt poor, and cut down all the trees. The UN goes in and plants more, and they keep cutting them down. And without any vegetation, massive mudslides happen.

It is a tragedy, but also one that is of their own making.


It's not a tragedy of their own making. It's a tragedy that they are so poor that they are forced to cut down trees. It's a tragedy that they are so uneducated that they don't realize the dangers in cutting down their trees. It's a tragedy that there government isn't responsible enough to see that they have the education, medicine and infrastructure to protect their people. The international community can only do so much and they probably have to go through the governmental agencies to do it. And that's where the hurdle is.

Of their own making?? That's like saying that starvation in the Sudan is of their own making when in fact the food donated to the government sits unopened while battles rage.[/u]
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#36 Postby msbee » Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:53 am

good points Houstonia
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#37 Postby Josephine96 » Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:56 am

I do hope the Haitians can recover down there.. what a loss.. :sad:
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#38 Postby crazycajuncane » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:01 pm

That is just amazing. I guess a Tropical Storm can be the equivalent of a slow moving Cat 4 to us in the US.

It's amazing how many more people died, simply because the lack of resources they have.

I do feel for the Haitians. God Bless those still alive and battling for their life.
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#39 Postby Lebowsky » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:05 pm

Personally I am tired of this "nobody cares" crap. What do you expect me to do, put a gun to my head and blow my brains out?

They died, there's nothing I can do about it, if you have a beef complain to God.
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#40 Postby hibiscushouse » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:08 pm

Wow :eek: what a thing to say. :grr:
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