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Storm needs to Turn and Fast

#1 Postby Jevo » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:40 am

At this point Jeanne needs to make a turn to 285 and maintain to land at its forecasted track.. IMO this storm is going to come closer to the southern side of the cone.

BTW on radar she is still moving 270
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#2 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:45 am

It's going to strike very populated and popular spots with a vengeance. This storm is strengthening, as well, and is poised to bring on more devastation. People in the peninsula of Florida need to be wrapping things up on final plans of a major hurricane coming overhead. Hopefully people are prepared with the proper supplies, and are prepared for no electricity, again, for up to 7 or more days. I'm getting more concerned as time passes for the peninsula. I was sincerely hoping and believing that this system was going to turn North, but, it certainly appears, this is NOT going to happen.
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#3 Postby inotherwords » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:48 am

Right before Frances there was thread after thread about how it was "definitely" tracking west into Miami/Ft. L. unless it didn't start tracking northwest, and it hit exactly where the NHC said it would, by Jupiter/Vero/Ft. Pierce. This storm is expected to make landfall in the same place.

Let's not jump to erroneous conclusions or overreact. Let's see what the 11 a.m. report says.
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#4 Postby Aquawind » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:49 am

Wow jevo..Sorry Dude no NFL this week.. Stay Safe Man..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#5 Postby CourierPR » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:51 am

If the turn comes at land fall, then it's too late.
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#6 Postby Lebowsky » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:52 am

I agree with inotherwords, the NHC has been saying it will turn north in the last few hours before landfall, they never said it would be turning north at this stage of the game.
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#7 Postby inotherwords » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:56 am

If the turn comes at land fall, then it's too late.


Too late for what? It's what the NHC says will happen to support their projected track. And I kind of feel they know what they're talking about more than a few amateurs on this board. If they felt the turn had to happen sooner, they'd say it, and then they'd show a completely different track than they have been.

JEANNE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.


So there you go. From the 8am update.
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#8 Postby miamijaaz » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:04 am

The red line in the NHC track is generally the center of the guidance. It does not necessarily mean that it will follow that line. The NHC has said many, many times not to focus on it as the landfall point, hence the reason for the "cone". Just ask the people in Port Charlotte what they think about that line.

I thought we had all learned this lesson by now?
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#9 Postby Jevo » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:10 am

inotherwords wrote:
If the turn comes at land fall, then it's too late.


Too late for what? It's what the NHC says will happen to support their projected track. And I kind of feel they know what they're talking about more than a few amateurs on this board. If they felt the turn had to happen sooner, they'd say it, and then they'd show a completely different track than they have been.

JEANNE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.


So there you go. From the 8am update.


Well then if the storm is going to move west for the next 24 hours with no shift towards the north then it would be in the southern side of the cone.. Taking the fact that landfall will be in 16-18 hours
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#10 Postby chris_fit » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:11 am

Its right on track. I can see how some take this thing farther south to WPB or even farther south... That takes a lot of balls to make a call like that now.
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#11 Postby wxwatcher2 » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:12 am

Aquawind wrote:Wow jevo..Sorry Dude no NFL this week.. Stay Safe Man..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


Except for the Dolphins, and who really cares.....
I can assure you "dude" that the NFL will go on as planned all across the U.S.A.

Unfortunately mos of us in Fla won't have power to see it.
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#12 Postby Aquawind » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:14 am

Unfortunately mos of us in Fla won't have power to see it.


My point Exactly....
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#13 Postby Jevo » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:16 am

chris_fit wrote:Its right on track. I can see how some take this thing farther south to WPB or even farther south... That takes a lot of balls to make a call like that now.


Man this can really bring out the best in people... (sarcasim)

I like to think I have a lot of "balls" and Ill say that its going to come in south of the current track

(That and Ed Rappaport just mentioned on Channel 7 news that the cone may be shifted west at 11)

Balls and Brains are a scary combination
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#14 Postby Anonymous » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:23 am

chris_fit wrote:Its right on track. I can see how some take this thing farther south to WPB or even farther south... That takes a lot of balls to make a call like that now.


...Doesn't take a lot of balls to make a call like that. Hurricane warnings are posted by the NHC to the south and north as well as inland Hurricane warnings for a more southern landfal wesinto south central Counties with TS warnings on the west coastl, as some models are still calling for a western route prior to a turn NW, this isn't unknown or shown in the NHC cone of possible landfalls or future track.
The storm is acclerating and it doesn't take a lot of balls to see this by doing simple math and seeing the storm is moving faster than 14 mph. Moving faster it will reach the coast faster thus a more western or southern landfall.

Currently the worst part of the storm is a-typical and is not the NE but rather the SW as reported by recon. So regardless where the eye makes landfall --currently the SW side is the worst. Thats nature for you, doesn't make things perfect.

It takes a lot of balls to simply use the dotted line down the center of the cone as the exact track as well as the exact projected coordinates. Frankly I don't its balls but stupidity because nature doesn't move in exact straight lines and Jeanne won't either.
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#15 Postby CourierPR » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:41 am

Inotherwords, obviously the meaning of my post was not clear. I meant that a turn at land fall would still put souls in jeopardy to the south of the point of land fall. You must admit that the NHC projection has shown the storm curving north before reaching SoFla.
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#16 Postby Anonymous » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:45 am

If it started the turn now, it would miss Fla...its not gonna turn till it hits Fla though thus Fla's doom :eek:
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