People not leaving..?

[Josephine96]

I have been hearing reports all morning of people on Meritt Island and the barrier islands of Brevard County, not leaving..

I hope for their sake they get some common sense

[Ripopgodazippa]

About 15 minutes ago, I spoke with someone over at the Florida EOC. The main topic of discussion is that the traffic counters are very low. They're thinking one of two things. Either folks are going to try and ride it out, or people are only moving a short distance to a solid structure. It goes without saying the EM officials are concerned.

[HurryKane]

I can understand their not wanting to leave because of sheer weariness. So I won't criticize those who stay.

But I sure will pray for them.

[Anonymous]

Lots of fatalities coming. What a shame. And some of those will be simply because someone else convinced them to stay, or would not leave. I pray that all kids remain safe, while the adult fools pay the price. I cannot imagine!

Weariness? Weariness is an excuse for individuals that simply cannot think straight, for foolish reasons, while under obvious potential peril.

[HurryKane]

Lots of fatalities coming. What a shame. And some of those will be simply because someone else convinced them to stay, or would not leave. I pray that all kids remain safe, while the adult fools pay the price. I cannot imagine!

I disagree heartily with that sentiment.

Weariness? Weariness is an excuse for individuals that simply cannot think straight, for foolish reasons, while under obvious potential peril.

Well then, BigEz, why don't you get your butt on down there and tell them that to their faces? I would enjoy the results.

[dhweather]

TWC just interviewed an elderly gentleman, said his place was fine from Frances.

I too can appreciate the weariness, Ivan was no fun to prep for.

[Canelaw99]

Mayor Penelas was just saying that a lot of people in mobile homes aren't evacuating in the numbers they were for Frances, which is concerning.

[gtalum]

I pray that all kids remain safe, while the adult fools pay the price. I cannot imagine!

yes, because kids are generally so happy growing up as wards of the state.

Let's forget wishing these people harm, and just hope they all make it through ok even if they maybe should have evacuated.

[Anonymous]

Disagree about what?

That some foolish adults, would persuade, (or even force their loved ones)...other more rational thinking adults and children to stay along for "the ride", as everything will be fine? I have no pity for those folks.

[LAwxrgal]

Lets not argue about this, it's a perilous situation no doubt. I fear complacency setting in and massive loss of life.

Remember, this is the same storm that killed thousands in Haiti.

Her death toll will surely rise if this is the case.

[Innotech]

there is NO sugarcoating the fact that if people dont evacuate NOw there will be a significant # of fatalities. I dont care how weary a person is, they cant just ride out a Cat3/4 hurricane on the coast. Its not logical or sensible. TO put children in this peril IS VERY FOOLISH. I do havepity for these folks, but I join Big EZ in saying many will perish if they stay.

[HurryKane]

Disagree about what?

That some foolish adults, would persuade, (or even force their loved ones)...other more rational thinking adults and children to stay along for "the ride", as everything will be fine? I have no pity for those folks.

The bolded part, where you prayed that adults who chose not to leave to be harmed:

I pray that all kids remain safe, while the adult fools pay the price.

Wishing harm on anyone in this situation is despicable, particularly while you're sitting high and dry. I realize that they probably will be harmed, but praying for it as you did in your earlier post makes me want to vomit.

[Radar]

The reason people are not leaving could also be due to the expense... Remember this area has been evacuated before and it costs money to evacute.... Plus some people have lost time at work because of hurricanes just recently. I know the expense of evacuating and preparing for a hurricane, not to mention the expense of the aftermath can be astronomical. I know this first hand since I was under a mandatory evacuation from Ivan and had to run up a credit card because I did not have cash available. Hopefully the ones that dont leave will go to a shelter alittle inland to ride out the storm. So don't judge someone unless you walk in their shoes.. This is a very difficult and stressful time for Floridians.. I wish them all the best and hope they take whatever procedures they can to ensure their safety... The residents of Florida are in my thoughts and prayers...

[WorryWart]

I know of people who have spent their last dime for supplies and repairs for the last two storms and have NOTHING left and no transportation. They just don't have the necessary resources. Have sympathy for them rather than contempt, if they were able to leave they probably would.

[tronbunny]

I fear we will have fatalities, just because Frances didn't do anything "real bad"

[gravitylover1]

I spoke to a friend of mine who no longer has a car to leave with and hasn't worked in a month so he has no money to take with him even if walked out. They have yet to see a claims adjuster and spent their last dollar on tarps a few days ago to cover the holes in the roof from the neighbors tree that crushed the car and the south side of the house. Needless to say they will be riding it out at a shelter.

The bottom line though is that barrier islands were never meant to be built on and lived on. We call them barriers because that is the purpose nature intended them for. If a person is willing to put their time and money into building a life for themselves on a barrier island they should also accept the perils of that lifestyle. We should not wish them ill will but we should also not have to pay higher homeowners rates so that the insurance companies can cover the losses sustained by people that don't belong there in the first place.

My business insurance is also going up over 25% this year because the carrier has sustained losses due to these storms this year and I am 1000 miles away from there. My store is now open seven days a week (and I run it myself) so I can cover the difference when the bill comes next month.

Bottom line - If you're going to build a life in a place like that you shouldn't be able to get insurance to cover storm losses. Sorry if this thought disturbs anybody but I am working almost 100 hours a week now because of this situation and my five year old twins would probably like to see me other than just for breakfast.

[itglobalsecure]

I agree. I too am a small business owner, and these accumulated disasters --in areas of known repeated danger-- really make rates soar, and I'm far away from a hurricane disaster area. I sincerely pray that the affected homeowners receive claims to which they are entitled, but there are certainly some NARROWLY DEFINED areas for which insurance should be extremely expensive or uninsurable. It's getting hard to absorb all these rate increases.

[Innotech]

Disagree about what?

That some foolish adults, would persuade, (or even force their loved ones)...other more rational thinking adults and children to stay along for "the ride", as everything will be fine? I have no pity for those folks.

The bolded part, where you prayed that adults who chose not to leave to be harmed:

I pray that all kids remain safe, while the adult fools pay the price.

Wishing harm on anyone in this situation is despicable, particularly while you're sitting high and dry. I realize that they probably will be harmed, but praying for it as you did in your earlier post makes me want to vomit.

You obviously misread his post. He said he prays for the children to be safe, but that does not apply to praying for the adults to be harmed. Read more carefully! He said while the foolish adults will probably be regretting their staying (unless they have no choice) he prays the children will remain safe, NOT that he prays for the adults to be harmed! This is why I sometimes hate the internet. Its easy to misread someones words.

[Innotech]

I spoke to a friend of mine who no longer has a car to leave with and hasn't worked in a month so he has no money to take with him even if walked out. They have yet to see a claims adjuster and spent their last dollar on tarps a few days ago to cover the holes in the roof from the neighbors tree that crushed the car and the south side of the house. Needless to say they will be riding it out at a shelter.

The bottom line though is that barrier islands were never meant to be built on and lived on. We call them barriers because that is the purpose nature intended them for. If a person is willing to put their time and money into building a life for themselves on a barrier island they should also accept the perils of that lifestyle. We should not wish them ill will but we should also not have to pay higher homeowners rates so that the insurance companies can cover the losses sustained by people that don't belong there in the first place.

My business insurance is also going up over 25% this year because the carrier has sustained losses due to these storms this year and I am 1000 miles away from there. My store is now open seven days a week (and I run it myself) so I can cover the difference when the bill comes next month.

Bottom line - If you're going to build a life in a place like that you shouldn't be able to get insurance to cover storm losses. Sorry if this thought disturbs anybody but I am working almost 100 hours a week now because of this situation and my five year old twins would probably like to see me other than just for breakfast.

I agree with you, Ive said before that barrier islands exist to shield the coast. Anything on those islands WILL NOT LAST because nature unleashes her fury hardest on them. Yes they are beautiful, but expecting to live peacefully on them is akin to expecting to never see an earthquake in California.

[HurryKane]

I read plenty carefully. His lack of compassion was more than evident, particularly the part where he (if you are indeed correct) excluded adults from his prayers.

Why not just hope for the best for everyone?