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#1 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:55 pm

Winter Forecast for North Texas: (Updated 11-10-04)


Let's start with this past Summer (June-August) and the record-breaking rainfall of 18.89 inches. Add in that this was ONLY the 3rd time in history (104yrs) that there was no OFFICAL 100 degree-day recorded (1906, 1973) being the other two years. We had no less that 5 cold fronts push through N-TX breaking several all time lows for those months even as far South as Houston and Corpus Christi. So what does this all mean as far as our Fall/Winter goes??

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Most winter precipitation accures during the Jan-Feb period for N-TX and with what I think will be a active Southern Storm track this season I wont be surprised to see several chances at Snow and Ice this winter. Since I made my first posting for the winter season several other winter forecast have been released, most call for a colder and wetter then avg winter for the NE and SE and warmer and dryer than avg for the SW, W, and NW including Alaska. I don't totaly agree with that, I think that the Mid-West, Great Lakes States, Southern Plains, and the Deep South is where the winter storms will happen, I know the NE will get it's share of winter weather but I don't see the extreme cold weather of 02-03, that will be for the Centeral part of the U.S this winter.

November 10, 2004
Warm-episode conditions are expected to continue into early 2005.

Positive sea surface temperature (SST) anomalies greater than +0.5°C (~1°F) persisted across most of the equatorial Pacific during October 2004 (Fig. 1). By early November, positive equatorial SST anomalies greater than +1°C (~2°F) were found from 160°E eastward to 150°W and locally in the area around 120°W (Fig. 2). The increase and eastward expansion of the area of anomalous warmth in the central and east-central equatorial Pacific during July-October (Fig. 3) indicates the early stages of a warm ( El Niño) episode.

Since late 2003 MJO activity has resulted in week-to-week and month-to-month variability in many atmospheric and oceanic indices. In the past few months the warmth in the central equatorial Pacific has supported eastward shifts of enhanced convection associated with the convectively active phase of the Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO) across the western equatorial Pacific. This activity has been associated with periods of weaker-than-average easterlies that initiated eastward-propagating oceanic Kelvin waves. This intraseasonal variability has been superposed on 1) an upward trend in SST anomalies east of the date line (Fig. 3) and 2) a gradual increase in the upper-ocean heat content during the last year (Fig. 4). Based on the recent evolution of oceanic and atmospheric conditions and on a majority of the statistical and coupled model forecasts, it seems most likely that warm episode (El Niño) conditions will persist through early 2005.

Looking at the yearly analogs that come the closest to this years coming winter are:

1963-64
1965-66
1969-70
1979-80
1987-88
1991-92

The record snowcover across Canada and Siberia continues to increase at a very fast rate. It is more extensive and deeper then it was at this time in both 2002 and 2003, and Alaska has seen it's share of early snow's as well. As of 11/10/04 the snow pack has started to move east and now covers a good part of Eastern Canada.

First Freeze between Nov. 7 - Nov. 15 (avg 1st freeze 17th of Nov)

November - A cool start with avg temps and avg precipitation (1-10) then a cooler period with below avg temps (11-15) Look for normal temps and above avg. precipitation for the (16-20) period, then a much colder end to the month (21-30) with below avg temps and above avg precipitation. Thanksgiving looks to be cold and windy with a chance of precipitation. (Normal High/Low - 65/40)

December - Looks to be cooler than avg with below normal temp for much of the month, and with avg to above avg precipitation. I think the middle of the month will be the coldest (13-21). Christmas looks to be Cold and Dry. (Normal High/Low - 57/37)

January - Starts off COLD with below avg temps (1-7) then a slight warm up but still quite cool, by mid Jan look for a Major Cold spell (15-22) with much below avg temps and above avg precipitation (ICE Storm)?? Then avg to below avg temps for the rest of the month. (Normal High/Low - 54/34)

February - Cold with avg to below avg temps and avg precipitation for the first half (1-15) then a brief warm up only to be replaced with another artic blast late in the month, could be a major SNOW event for N-Texas with below avg temps and above avg precipitation (20-28). (Normal High/Low - 59/38)


Well there you have in a "NUT" shell, only time and Old Man Winter can tell what’s going to happen, but that’s my Story and I'm sticking to it!


Happy Autumn to everyone out there!!

Peace!!


Edited to add Normal high/low for each month and to update (ENSO) info as of 11-10-04.
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#2 Postby gboudx » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:09 pm

The CPC is forecasting both below normal temps and above normal precip for Texas this coming Winter. Could get interesting around here Chris! :)

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... chill.html
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#3 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:33 pm

I noticed that it was somewhat coolish (that a word?) out today -- kinda like being in a moderately air-conditioned room and yet you're outside. Feels nice! :)
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#4 Postby gboudx » Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:03 pm

According to the WeatherBug, it was 62 near my house this morning. It was very nice!
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#5 Postby amawea » Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:49 pm

Don't give that 2002-2003 analog Capt. we had a bad ice storm here in north Arkansas on Dec 5th 2002. No power for a week cept my generator.
And seeing as how I work for a phone company it was pure torture, lol.
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#6 Postby Portastorm » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:53 am

Hey Texans, let's hear it for the first legitimate cold front of the Fall ... coming Saturday!

Here in Austin, we're supposed to have lows in the low to mid 50s by Monday morning ...
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#7 Postby gboudx » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:42 am

This is the NWS forecast for where I live(Rockwall). Can't wait!

Saturday: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms before noon. Partly cloudy, with a high around 75. North northwest wind between 15 and 20 mph.

Saturday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 51. North northeast wind between 10 and 15 mph.

Sunday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 74. North northeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Sunday Night: Mostly clear, with a low near 54.

Monday: Mostly sunny, with a high around 80.

Monday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 55.

Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 81.
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#8 Postby Janie34 » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:48 pm

I'm waiting for that front, too! First cool snap of the season, with a possible reinforcing shot of cool air next week. We had a front move through this morning, but it was relatively weak. Still, overnight temps should head for near 60. Not bad for the end of September around here.
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#9 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:32 am

Looks Like OCtober will start off with above avg precip and below avg temps. 1-7


This Afternoon: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a high near 76. East wind around 5 mph.

Tonight: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Increasing clouds, with a low around 64. East southeast wind around 5 mph.

Wednesday: A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Cloudy, with a high around 76. East southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Wednesday Night: A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Cloudy, with a low near 65. Southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Thursday: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Cloudy, with a high near 74. Southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.

Thursday Night: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Cloudy, with a low around 63. East southeast wind 5 to 10 mph becoming southwest.

Friday: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 74. West northwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming east.

Friday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 59. East wind between 10 and 15 mph.

Saturday: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a high near 74. East northeast wind between 10 and 15 mph.

Saturday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly cloudy, with a low near 59.

Sunday: Partly cloudy, with a high around 76.

Sunday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 57.


Edit to update area forecast 10/5
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#10 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:32 am

Portastorm wrote:Hey Texans, let's hear it for the first legitimate cold front of the Fall ... coming Saturday!

Here in Austin, we're supposed to have lows in the low to mid 50s by Monday morning ...


What cold front? We had a high of 94 yesterday!!! The low was in the70's this am!!!! Darn thing washed our before we got any good effects from it!!
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#11 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:39 pm

Sure looks nice for the remainder of the week with more rain and temps staying in the mid 70's with overnight lows in the mid 60's to upper 50's by this weekend. :rain:
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#12 Postby CaptinCrunch » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:33 am

MUCH BETTER AGREEMENT TODAY ABOUT CUT-OFF IN THE SW STATES NEXT
WEEK. OUTCOME...PSEUDO REX BLOCK OVER WEST COAST AND POSITIVELY
TILTED TROUGH OVER BULK OF THE COUNTRY. RESULTING STRONG NORTHERLY
FLOW IN CENTRAL PLAINS WILL BRING MP FRONT INTO N TEXAS WED-THURS
WITH POTENTIAL FOR REINFORCING CP AIR LATE NEXT WEEK. NEW 00Z GFS
HAS PUSHED INITIAL FRONT FORWARD TO WED AFTERNOON. 6-10DAY AND
8-14DAY OUTLOOKS FROM CPC PUTTING N TEXAS IN BELOW NORMAL TEMPS AND
ABOVE NORMAL PRECIP WITH FIRST SIGNIFICANT FROPAS AND ASSOCIATED
PRECIP.
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#13 Postby CaptinCrunch » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:42 pm

What a GREAT day it was, last nights cold front brought our first real fall tempertures with high's only reaching the mid to upper 60's an a brisk north wind under mostly sunny skies. Tonight will bring us our coldest temps since last february with expected lows in the mid 40's. This will be short lived as the high temps for friday will reach backup into the upper 70's and near 80 for the weekend.

The next shot of cooler wx should be early next week with normal to below normal temps and a chance of rain. I can't wait :)
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#14 Postby aggiecutter » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:56 pm

New to the site and just read your winter prelim for North Texas. Being from Texarkana, I found it of interest to me. I remember some of the analog winters that you referred to in your outlook, particularly the winter of 77-78. That was the holy grail of winters in this part of the country.

I pretty much follow the weather as a hobby. I subscribe to Accuweather Professional, and I am a member of various weather BB's. I also keep up with all the latest info and model data at CDC and NCEP.

If you dont mind, I would like to ask you several questions related to weather models and your winter forcast.

1. Do you use the models in making your forcast, either short term or long. And in your opinion, which of the models do you think is most reliable.

2. Do you have a lot of confidence that your winter forcast will come to fruition.

3. I noticed in your forcast rather than saying the months as a whole would be colder or wetter than normal etc, that you broke the months down into sub-periods of cold, wet etc. I'm just curious what algorithm you used to come up with that specific data.

Thanks
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#15 Postby CaptinCrunch » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:15 am

aggiecutter,

Hello and Welcome to Storm2K!! :)

Now to try and answer your questions, 1.) I look at how some of the models handle coming or passing fronts, ridge development, cut off lows and the placement of the northern and subtropical jet streams and it's relation to all of the above and soil moisture, a wetter ground stays colder longer. As far as the models are concerned I have found that no model is 100% reliable but I look mostly at the short-range models 72 to 120 hrs from both CDC, NCDC and NCEP.

2.) I have a 60/40 confidence that my winter forecast will come to fruition. Since no Wx forecast is ever 100% and I have seen too many times a significant front crap out before it reaches N-TX. But looking back at the past 4.5 months and the pattern has been very consistent both for temps as well as precip for some of the analog years of past (76-78, 85-86, 02-03). I made my Preliminary winter forecast for a local area of TX where most will forecast for the nation as a whole or an area of the nation like the NE. My outlook is very much in agreement with other more notable Forecasters as far as Temps go, I do however fell that for my area the Precip will be avg to above avg. for the winter season, again it's based on patterns that have been consistent over a 4.5 month period. Plus nature has it's signs that the coming season will be more extreme than say the last...(leaf and tree colors, grass color, animal behavior)

3.) It is easier to break down a forecast for a area vs. a region or national forecast, besides living here in N-TX you know how your winters play out on a month to month basis over a 36yr span. One day it's 65 for the high and the next it's 80.

Well I hope that it all made since, I'm no PRO at this, and it’s just a hobby. This is my first Official Area Winter Forecast that I have done. :)


A weak El Nino is expected this winter.

El Niño wintertime impacts over the United States vary considerably depending on the character (distribution and intensity) of the warming in the tropical Pacific. Composite impacts for selected ranges of the ONI for El Niño episodes since 1950 (Fig. 4) show that the areal extent of warmer-than-average (wetter-than-average) conditions increases across the northern (southern) United States, as the strength of El Niño increases. The current warming in the tropical Pacific is expected to continue through the upcoming winter, with models indicating an ONI in the range of +0.5ºC to +1.4ºC. Thus, the winter outlook for the United States (Fig. 5) is a blend of the composite impacts for comparable historical El Niño episodes and the effects of long-term trends. Warmer-than-average conditions are expected in the West and in the northern Plains, while cooler and wetter-than-average conditions are expected for portions of the South and Southeast.
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#16 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:56 pm

What Happened to Fall??

Well it seems that summer wants to make a suprise visit to the southern and midwestern parts of the country. The Mexican ploom, a large area of hot air that works as a cap that holds in the warm air and prevents thunderstorms from forming and brings Texas and the surrounding states it's hot summer wx has made a briff return. This large area of warm air will makes it's way north and northeast over the coming days with way above avg temps. A large upper low system working with a cold front coming down from NW Canada will slide down the west coast then move east across the southwestern states and across TX by Friday bring the chance of Sever Wx from central TX northward to the upper midwest and Ohio valley. The main focus of Sever Wx will be in TX and OK where the sub tropical jet stream bringing the moist air in from the GOM will be the strongest.

Looking ahead to next week temps should be back down to normal for late October (mid 70's) with a chance of precip in TX......Stay Tuned :)
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#17 Postby Wnghs2007 » Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:48 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:What Happened to Fall??

Well it seems that summer wants to make a suprise visit to the southern and midwestern parts of the country. The Mexican ploom, a large area of hot air that works as a cap that holds in the warm air and prevents thunderstorms from forming and brings Texas and the surrounding states it's hot summer wx has made a briff return. This large area of warm air will makes it's way north and northeast over the coming days with way above avg temps. A large upper low system working with a cold front coming down from NW Canada will slide down the west coast then move east across the southwestern states and across TX by Friday bring the chance of Sever Wx from central TX northward to the upper midwest and Ohio valley. The main focus of Sever Wx will be in TX and OK where the sub tropical jet stream bringing the moist air in from the GOM will be the strongest.

Looking ahead to next week temps should be back down to normal for late October (mid 70's) with a chance of precip in TX......Stay Tuned :)



Thanks for another great forecast :D
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#18 Postby aggiecutter » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:09 pm

The present pattern should continue til atleast the end of the month. With a mean ridge position over the Central US. November will probably have big swings in temps over the southern plains and southeast that average out overall with a lot storminess. The end of November or the beginning of december will see a huge paradigm shift in the pattern over the southern plains to wet and very cold that should last through the first of the new year. Looks like 4-6 weeks of winter to me, then things return to normal in mid-January.


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#19 Postby AggieSpirit » Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:02 pm

CaptianCrunch,

I believe in your forcast because anyone who lives near me in Kennedale can't be wrong :).

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#20 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:53 am

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
1040 AM CDT WED OCT 27 2004


.UPDATE...
UPPER LEVEL HIGH OVER THE GULF CONTINUES TO BUILD FARTHER WEST...AND
SUBSIDENCE SHOULD LESSEN PRECIP CHANCES TOWARD THE SE. HOWEVER...A
POCKET OF HIGHER MOISTURE FROM A CONVECTIVE FLARE UP OVER THE BAY OF
CAMPECHE YESTERDAY MORNING IS NOW ADVECTING THROUGH THE TX COASTAL
BEND REGION. WILL RAISE POPS ACROSS THE SOUTH TO CHANCE AND SHOW 40
PERCENT ACROSS THE SOUTHWESTERN AREAS. CUMULUS FIELD AND RADAR
RETURNS OVER EWX CWA ARE ALREADY VERIFYING THE EFFECTS OF INCREASED
MOISTURE. HAVE ALSO RAISED TEMPS A COUPLE DEGREES DUE TO INCREASING
LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION AND DECREASING CIRRUS CLOUD COVER. TR/92

&&

.435 AM DISCUSSION...
STRATUS NOW COVERING MUCH OF NORTH TEXAS...WITH SOME AREAS OF MIST
IN LOCATIONS WHERE WINDS HAVE BEEN LIGHT OVERNIGHT. ISOLATED SHOWERS
ACROSS NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE CWA ARE FORECASTED TO LIFT NWD INTO
OKLAHOMA LATER THIS MORNING. MEANWHILE...THE NEXT LOW-AMPLITUDE WAVE
MOVING AROUND PERIPHERY OF SUBTROPICAL RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN GULF
IS APPROACHING THE BIG BEND REGION ATTM.

WE EXPECT THE GREATEST COVERAGE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TODAY
TO REMAIN ACROSS NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE AREA...AND FURTHER AWAY
FROM SUBSIDENCE ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING UPPER RIDGE. HOWEVER...
GIVEN VERY MOIST LOW/MID LEVELS AND SOME INSOLATION ANTICIPATED...
WILL NEED TO KEEP AT LEAST SLIGHT CHANCES FOR ALL LOCATIONS. RAIN
CHANCES WILL BE FURTHER MINIMIZED ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY...AS UPPER
RIDGE CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN DOWNSTREAM OF TROUGH MOVING ACROSS THE
WESTERN U.S. THE RESULTANT INCREASE IN CAPPING WILL MINIMIZE CHANCES
FOR PRECIPITATION ACROSS NORTH TEXAS...ALTHOUGH WILL KEEP SLIGHT
CHANCES GOING FOR GOOD MEASURE. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL PUSH INTO THE
NORTHERN ZONES ON SATURDAY...WITH SLIGHTLY HIGHER CHANCE FOR
THUNDERSTORMS TO THE SOUTH OF THIS BOUNDARY. HOWEVER...A STRONGER
TROUGH MOVING INTO THE NORTHWEST STATES WILL PREVENT THE BOUNDARY
FROM MOVING FAR TO THE SOUTH...AND WE WILL LIMIT AMOUNT OF COOLING
BEHIND THIS FEATURE IN THE GRIDS.

THE LATEST ECMWF/GFS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON A MUCH STRONGER COLD
FRONTAL PASSAGE ON MONDAY MORNING. WE WILL USE CHANCE POPS
WORDING...AND CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE A SIGNIFICANT SURGE OF COOLER
PACIFIC AIR BEHIND THIS FRONT. QUICK RETURN FLOW IS EXPECTED BY
TUESDAY.
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