GOM development in next few days?

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GOM development in next few days?

#1 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:33 am

Nothing concrete about this but according to the long term discussion from the NWS in Brownsville something may pop up in the WGOM but the question is if it develops will it be a pure tropical system or a hybrid one so all the gomers may have to watch what happens this week and next weekend.

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.LONG TERM...WILL BEGIN WITH SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE LATEST PMDEPD.
"MOST MODELS INDICATE POTENTIAL SFC LOW DEVELOPMENT IN THE WRN GULF
OF MEXICO...ALONG WITH ENOUGH WEAK SLY FLOW ALOFT TO STEER THIS SYS
NWD. THE CANADIAN MODEL IS ALONE IN GENERATING A SIGNIFICANT SFC LOW
AND MOVING IT NWD TOWARD THE TX/LA COAST AS SOON AS THU DAY 5. WE
DISCOUNT THE CANADIAN SOLUTION ATTM...BUT STILL BELIEVE THAT SOME
LOW PRESSURE MAY DRIFT N IN THE FAR WRN GULF BY NEXT FRI-SAT. GULF
RETURN MOISTURE INTO THE SRN HIGH PLAINS STILL APPEARS TO BE WEAK
DURING THIS PERIOD. NEXT FRI-SAT DAYS 6-7 ARE MORE UNCERTAIN IN THE
TX/LA AREA AND DEPEND ON THE EVOLUTION/TRACK/TROPICAL
CHARACTERISTICS OF THE WRN GULF OF MEXICO LOW."  THE 5H TROUGH
CENTERED OVER THE SOUTHWEST U.S. IS PROGGED TO MOVE SOUTHEAST AND
WILL BE ELONGATED OVER THE TX/MEX BORDER REGION BY FRI.  THE GFS
INDICATES A SHALLOWER TROUGH WILL A SURFACE LOW REFLECTED ALONG THE
TX COASTLINE LATER THIS UPCOMING WEEK.  THE ECMWF IS DEEPER WITH THE
5H TROUGH AND EVENTUALLY CLOSES OFF A 5H LOW OVER THE EL PASO AREA
BY 12Z SAT.  BELIEVE THAT THE ECMWF AND THE GFS 5H FIELDS ARE IN
GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE OVERALL PLACEMENT OF THE TROUGH UNTIL 12Z FRI
WITH THE BIGGEST DIFERENCES SHOWING UP BY 12Z NEXT SAT WITH THE 5H
CLOSED LOW FORMATION.  REGARDLESS OF THE MODEL DIFFERENCES...THE 5H
TROFFING WILL AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THE SURFACE LOW FORMATION WILL
MAINTAIN ABOVE NORMAL POPS OVER THE BRO CWA THROUGH THE UPCOMING
WEEK. THE HIGHER POPS...TROPICAL MOISTURE VALUES AND CLD COVER WILL
HOLD DOWN TEMPS LATER THIS WEEK TO NEAR OF JUST BELOW CLIMO. 
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#2 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:35 am

Anyone know when the next front is set to come thru??
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HPC Prelim

#3 Postby KatDaddy » Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:21 am

HPC Prelim

THE POTENTIAL FOR TROPICAL LOW DEVELOPMENT MID TO LATE WEEK OVER
THE WRN GULF OF MEXICO REMAINS. AGAIN...THE CANADIAN MODEL SHOWS A
WELL DEFINED CYCLONE...MOVING IT NWD INTO TX BY THU NIGHT. THE
GFS/ECMWF ARE WEAKER WITH THE SYS AND AND SLOWER TO MOVE IT N OUT
OF THE GULF. THE UKMET TIMING/DEPTH OF THIS SYS IS IS IN BETWEEN
THE CANADIAN AND GFS.

THE SECOND PROBLEM CONCERNS THE POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF A TROPICAL
SYS IN THE WRN GULF OF MEXICO TOWARDS THE END OF THE WORKWEEK.
STILL LOTS OF UNCERTAINTY. WE PREFER NOW TO GO JUST A LITTLE
FASTER THAN THE GFS BRINGING LOW PRES NWD TOWARDS THE AR/LA/TX
BORDERS BY NEXT SUN DAY 7.
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#4 Postby Yankeegirl » Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:34 am

Well thats good.. we really do need the rain... Although my sons borthday party is set for Saturday.. I hope it doesnt get cancelled...

Where are they thinking this system is going to go? Texas? Houston area?
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#5 Postby KatDaddy » Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:38 am

AVN - TX/LA border
CMC - Port O Conner
UKMET - TX/LA border

Lots of wind and rain for Upper TX Coast and LA which is needed.
High tides through most of the week due to pressure gradient between lowering pressures in GOM and High pressure to the N

Candian (CMC) shows a significant tropical cyclone which discount.
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#6 Postby Canebo » Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:57 am

YankeeGirl wrote:Well thats good.. we really do need the rain... Although my sons borthday party is set for Saturday.. I hope it doesnt get cancelled...

Where are they thinking this system is going to go? Texas? Houston area?


I'm thinking less rain for us if it moves ashore Tx/La border, more rain Port O'connor if it is a small system. We need the rain, but I hope it stays away for your son's party Saturday. I am always nervous when we plan outdoor b'days. That is usually a sure way to lure rain to our area.

Kat Daddy--keep us posted on this one please.
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#7 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:47 pm

Well it is October and it is not outside the realm of possibility to see something develop here.

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#8 Postby alicia-w » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:32 pm

Is it really necessary to have about ten threads on the same subject? A little repetitive maybe.... I apologize ahead of time if someone is irked by the suggestion that there's some redundancy here.
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#9 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:40 pm

alicia-w wrote:Is it really necessary to have about ten threads on the same subject? A little repetitive maybe.... I apologize ahead of time if someone is irked by the suggestion that there's some redundancy here.


It's not like we have a whole lot to talk about anyway.
So I don't see any problem with it.
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#10 Postby Johnny » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:40 pm

Different threads.....different opinions. I enjoy 'em. Keep 'em coming.
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#11 Postby Pigsnibble » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:46 pm

12Z runs for UKM and AVN still show a low near TX/LA line by Sat/Sun with pressures near 1000mb.....wet weekend looks like.
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#12 Postby southerngale » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:29 pm

We're getting some of that rain we needed right now so I personally don't need anymore from a tropical system in a few days. Unfortunately 47mph wind gusts and tornadoes are accompanying it. :eek:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p ... klch.shtml
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#13 Postby Yankeegirl » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:12 pm

I see it moving over your way, Gale, send it over here.. There is another flare up of some storms up by Abilene that the locals think might hold together and make it over this way by later on tonight... I guess we will see.. We really dodged a bullet this afternoon with the storms that you are gettin... Enjoy them for me!!!

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#14 Postby Hou~TX~Mama » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:16 pm

Holy cow, it's actually thundering and raining (at my work)!!!!!!!! Although to look at the radar, it shows nothing.
Probably not even raining at my house.
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#15 Postby southerngale » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:07 pm

It's quiet here at the moment Yankee but still scattered storms around...radar does show maybe more for later though. I see a pretty heavy cell southeast of Houston now.

They're still mentioning tropical moisture for here later this week...don't know if it will amount to anything though.
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#16 Postby Roxy » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:42 pm

IT'S RAINING!

HALLELUJIAH! :D
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#17 Postby dhweather » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:05 pm

Thunder and rain at my house! WOO HOO!!!!
.42 inches so far !!!!
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#18 Postby LAwxrgal » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:57 pm

That's funny, my local met today mentioned this area of disturbed weather is supposed to move north with a weak UL low and give us showers/thunderstorms later in week.

Getting rain here WOOHOO!
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#19 Postby southerngale » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:41 pm

lol LAwxrgal...I guess if they all mention it in Texas and Louisiana, one area is bound to be right and the others can just say, "well you know how unpredictable the tropics (or just weather) can be." ;)
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#20 Postby ColdFront77 » Mon Oct 04, 2004 8:18 pm

alicia-w wrote:Is it really necessary to have about ten threads on the same subject? A little repetitive maybe.... I apologize ahead of time if someone is irked by the suggestion that there's some redundancy here.

Alicia, this comes up quite a bit. It actually turns a lot of people off. It is much more difficult to sift through posts if you want to attempt at reading and/or scanning the posts the threads contain.
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