Ivan made landfall as a cat 3 130 mph

[Derek Ortt]

Floyd,

NHC's operational intensity is NOT supposed to be used as the official findings. If one uses the operational intensity is a science paper, the result will be rejection. Only best track holds any merit and there is little chance of anything above 105KT being the landfall intensity

[jpigott]

i stayed with my friend during Jeanne (he lives about 5 miles inland, rather than 1-2 miles where I live) in northern palm beach county. Somehow, he did not lose power and we were able to watch the radar/satellite as Jeanne was coming onshore. I noticed a burst of deep red convection on the southern eyewall as it came in (right on top of us). And since we are talking about intensity here, i was wondering if anyone here would venture to guess what types of winds we saw in northern palm beach county (bwtn Jupiter and Palm Beach Gardens) with that southern eyewall flare up at landfall. From my personal vantage point it sure sounded quite a bit more intense than Frances.

[Derek Ortt]

probably upper cat 1 or lower cat 2 in the southern eye wall of Jeanne, with winds being much lower inland

[Steve]

I don't know what it was, although he looked formidable. But here's the key:

>>In short, as bad as Ivan was, a category 4 will be many times worse for the northern Gulf Coast

Indeed.

Steve

[alicia-w]

"Those who say 105 mph are pure crazy given the fact the NHC said it came onshore as a category 3."

I thought they said 105 KNOTS, not mph.

[jpigott]

Thanks Derek. I don't think i would want to experience much more than that, it was bad enough as it was. Didn't quite get that freight train sound, but it sure sounded vicious out there for a few hours.