Is Matthew Turning?

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Is Matthew Turning?

#1 Postby boca » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:39 pm

Is he turning from E to NE to NNE? Looks that way to me.
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#2 Postby lilbump3000 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:39 pm

Looks like one to me as well, but we will have to see if this trend continues.
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#3 Postby Rainband » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:41 pm

still looks east to me. Hope it does turn. we don't need anymore.
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#4 Postby TS Zack » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:43 pm

I don't see it moving East anymore maybe NNE but really hard to tell. Just watch and wait but what a heck of a burst of convection occuring.
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Re: Is Matthew Turning?

#5 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:43 pm

boca wrote:Is he turning from E to NE to NNE? Looks that way to me.


Yes it does but as always we have to wait and see what
the NHC says.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... itype=irbw
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#6 Postby boca » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:44 pm

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#7 Postby boca » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:45 pm

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#8 Postby ColdFront77 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:46 pm

The last few frames of a satellite loop are more an optical illusion than noticing actually direction. Even worse with systems in this phase. Need to see the coming half hour images to see if it's a trend.
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#9 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:48 pm

No no no. Its just the illusion effect created by the convection shape it is taking on. It is going still ENE.

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#10 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:54 pm

It could be lifting a little more ENE now, but the reason you are seeing turning is because the CDO is taking a curved band shape and is starting to wrap. This should be followed by incremental windspeed increases.

That's quite a burst!
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#11 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:55 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:No no no. Its just the illusion effect created by the convection shape it is taking on. It is going still ENE.

<RICKY>


Correct. Don't watch the heavy convection, that's not the center. Look to the west at the very faint low clouds. The LLC actually appears to be moving to the east or even east-southeast. In fact, it appears that the convection is being ripped away from the broad LLC by increasing southwesterly shear.
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#12 Postby Stormsfury » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:00 pm

IR2 channel is about the best we have during nighttime hours...

Easterly movement, and not real fast ... and this thing's entraining some dry air (more mid-level and SFC based) on the western flank ...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

Watch the WV loop and watch the area WEST of the center dry up and on the eastern side, watch the explosion of deep purples (time sensitive) ... 10 PM ...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#13 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:02 pm

The last frame shows a 'tear-drop' shape with the 'tail' being on the SE side. Instead of increasing shear, I'd be watching for potential wrapping and speed increases...

Watch the red burst. It is usually the best indicator. Right now it is growing with deep reds while appearing to transform into a banding process...
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#14 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:11 pm

It's really hard to tell with this poorly exposed center. :roll:


http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... itype=irbw
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#15 Postby sea oat » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:30 pm

Rainband wrote:still looks east to me. Hope it does turn. we don't need anymore.


We don't need anymore here in the panhandle of Florida either. Send it to LA or MS!!!
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#16 Postby Scorpion » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:55 pm

Ugh, like I keep telling everyone, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THIS SYSTEM. Even in Ivan affected areas, it will hardly do a thing. Jeanne hit the same area as Frances, and tarps survived. Jeanne was a 105 kt storm, this is 35. Please do not get worked up. Its a minimial TS. Nothing more. If this turns into a cane, then I get to eat crow the rest of the year :D.
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#17 Postby Rainband » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:56 pm

Scorpion wrote:Ugh, like I keep telling everyone, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THIS SYSTEM. Even in Ivan affected areas, it will hardly do a thing. Jeanne hit the same area as Frances, and tarps survived. Jeanne was a 105 kt storm, this is 35. Please do not get worked up. Its a minimial TS. Nothing more. If this turns into a cane, then I get to eat crow the rest of the year :D.
Some areas don't need RAIN either chill out and have some respect for those with no roofs :roll:
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#18 Postby feederband » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:58 pm

Scorpion wrote:Ugh, like I keep telling everyone, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THIS SYSTEM. Even in Ivan affected areas, it will hardly do a thing. Jeanne hit the same area as Frances, and tarps survived. Jeanne was a 105 kt storm, this is 35. Please do not get worked up. Its a minimial TS. Nothing more. If this turns into a cane, then I get to eat crow the rest of the year :D.


I don't think i would under estimate this thing. Even minimal ts can be a killer.
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#19 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:02 pm

I've done a center rix using GARP and I have nearly a due north motion over the last 3 hours. I went with 24.9N and 93.7W for the 11 p.m. update location.

NHC actually does not give current positions in their advisories. Instead, they use 3 hour forecast positions based upon the official fixes at synoptic time. The only time you get a real position are in the intermediate advisory locations
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#20 Postby JenyEliza » Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:05 pm

Rainband wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Ugh, like I keep telling everyone, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THIS SYSTEM. Even in Ivan affected areas, it will hardly do a thing. Jeanne hit the same area as Frances, and tarps survived. Jeanne was a 105 kt storm, this is 35. Please do not get worked up. Its a minimial TS. Nothing more. If this turns into a cane, then I get to eat crow the rest of the year :D.
Some areas don't need RAIN either chill out and have some respect for those with no roofs :roll:


Or people who are still trying to dry their home out and kill all the mold left behind from Frances, Ivan and Jeanne's flooding rains. (raises hand here).

Jeny
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