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Symetrical......

#1 Postby dixiebreeze » Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:34 pm

Matthew is showing a very nice, symetrical image tonight. And it looks like he is eastbound or slightly north of east.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/GMEX/IR4/20.jpg
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#2 Postby feederband » Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:42 pm

This might get alot stonger than we were thinking.
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#3 Postby Stormsfury » Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:44 pm

Actually, the MCV (mid-level rotation in this case) and the LLC are still not vertically stacked with the LLCC west of the strongest convection ... in fact, there's basically NOTHING on the western side of Matthew with stronger winds aloft ...
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#4 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:51 pm

Stormsfury wrote:Actually, the MCV (mid-level rotation in this case) and the LLC are still not vertically stacked with the LLCC west of the strongest convection ... in fact, there's basically NOTHING on the western side of Matthew with stronger winds aloft ...


Yeah that is very correct. So do you think that Matthew can strenghten somewhat before making landfall?

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#5 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:33 pm

Yes, he won't boost until he fleshes out that west side. However I think what dixie is talking about is a better symmetry and isolation of the CDO as it separates from the front...
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#6 Postby Stormsfury » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:43 pm

Ricky

I wouldn't be surprised at SOME intensification b/c of very healthy convection being maintained ... 1) MCV contnues strong and violent due to 2) strong speed shear and diffluent flow over the system, the necessary ingredients for maintaining such events ... the positive tilt of Matthew (LLC in relation to the MLC) continues to enhance lift and instability ... and the reasoning that Matthew exhibits more SUBTROPICAL characteristics than tropical cause the system is more baroclinic than barotropic, IMHO ...

I have to reiterate .. I'm glad this setup isn't over Tornado Alley ... this would SCREAM "tornado outbreak" and possibly still might as it nears land ...

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#7 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:47 pm

Anybody heard when there will be watches or warnings issued? Maybe 11pm?
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#8 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:01 pm

I notice two things on that satellite image:

1. Matthew's center is getting more removed from that burst of convection (see image below).

2. That burst of convection east of Matthew appears to be smiling at me

<img src="http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/matt.jpg">
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#9 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:08 pm

wxman57 wrote:I notice two things on that satellite image:

1. Matthew's center is getting more removed from that burst of convection (see image below).

2. That burst of convection east of Matthew appears to be smiling at me

<img src="http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/matt.jpg">


happy halloween..kinda looks like a pumpkin face..this thing can do whatever it once as long as it doesnt cancel any college football...we have had enough of that nonsense already
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#10 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:12 pm

That symbol should be about 1/2 way more towards the edge of the CDO...
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#11 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:15 pm

I'd rather see him smiling then to see a skull like we saw with Ivan :eek: .
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#12 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:28 pm

Sanibel wrote:That symbol should be about 1/2 way more towards the edge of the CDO...


Actually, the symbol looks like it's over the center. But it is hard to see on satellite. Look at the very faint gray bands left of the symbol marking the western part of the center.
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#13 Postby Anonymous » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:33 pm

Could this storm reform a new LLC under the convection as Jeanne did and strengthen?
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#14 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:43 pm

No sorry I disagree. If we could see a shortwave IR together I could show you the exact spiral center east of that, but since it is trivial it isn't worth arguing...
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#15 Postby ~SirCane » Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:26 pm

SHOOT!
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#16 Postby ColdFront77 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:47 pm

The convection is impressive, nonetheless.
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#17 Postby rtd2 » Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:21 am

"The convection is impressive, nonetheless"




I agree...I dont see Mathew getting past 60 mph but those dark red explosive T-storms near the center is gonna bring somebaody some torrential rains....amazing how the smaller systems can have such an impact! reminds me of Allison that dumped nearly 3 FEET of rain in Houston over to Mobile... not saying Mathew will do that But.... :(
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