IS "OTTO" IN THE MAKING?

[HURAKAN]

http://bricker.met.psu.edu/trop-cgi/avn ... =Animation

A Non-Tropical Low located near the Azores Islands continues to move southward, and in the next few days it may become more tropical in nature. All computer models indicate the low will move toward more conducive sea surface temperatures for development. According to the NHC, the system is considered to be a Gale Center, which indicates it has sustained winds of tropical storm force, and the low is deepening.This seems like another Peter!





http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html

[Scorpion]

Cool! Maybe we will get to R or S this year!

[Opal storm]

As long as they stay away from Florida

[HURAKAN]

Looks as if this 'system' is already quite large, though poor on Convection. According to Enhanced Infared Satellite Imagery, it looks as if there is almost no significant convection anywhere within the wave. If i'm not mistaken this is the remnants of Lisa and Jeanne which combined.

Kevin Cho - East Naples, FL

The remnants of Jeanne and Lisa are NW of Portugal as a big low pressure system.

[Hyperstorm]

There was a cyclone during the 1980s that did become tropical when it was located very near the Azores islands.

Impressive circulation right now, but it will have to move south of 30*N for it to become anything tropical as SSTs are not warm enough to support transition.

[Hyperstorm]

Here's the 1980 storm "Ivan", which developed UNUSUALLY far to the north and east.



Interestingly, this occured during the same month that we are in right now...October.

[HurricaneJoe22]

remnants of Lisa and Jeanne combined? So if this forms into a storm, will they call it LisaJeanne? They seem to favor bringing dead storms back to life...like Jason in Friday the 13th

[HurricaneBill]

I remember it being odd about Hurricane Nicole in 1998. She formed at the very end of November and in the northern Atlantic. I guess there was a small area of abnormally warm SST in the north Atlantic and the system that became Nicole happened to pass over it. Nicole was still a hurricane on December 1st, 1998. That made her the first December hurricane in the Atlantic since Hurricane Lili in mid-December in 1984.

It was also weird because after Mitch, many probably felt that was it for the season. After a storm like Mitch, would could possibly be left?

It was as if the Atlantic was saying "Just one more!" and there was Nicole.

[ColdFront77]

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GALE CENTER IS SW OF THE AZORES NEAR 34N31W. SCATTERED SHOWERS/
THUNDERSTORMS EXTEND WITHIN 200 NM SE OF THE FRONT.

[senorpepr]

remnants of Lisa and Jeanne combined? So if this forms into a storm, will they call it LisaJeanne? They seem to favor bringing dead storms back to life...like Jason in Friday the 13th

To answer you question, if this storm forms (which it will not since it's moving into the UK and is forecast to moving into the Kjolen Mtns of Norway and off toward NW Russia), what would it be called. Well... that's very tough to say. First one would have to decide if the remnant circulation remained intact. If not, it would be called Otto. If so, a new question pops up. Between Jeanne and Lisa, which circulation was dominate during the merge? The German's DWD (similar to our NWS) believe Jeanne absorbed Lisa. If this is the case, Jeanne would be used. However, other stateside meteorologists believe Lisa was the dominate circulation. If that is the case, Lisa would be the name. So essentially, the NHC would argue and debate over days trying to figure out whether to call this system Jeanne, Lisa, or Otto, very much like they debated over Ivan versus Matthew.

The good news... this has a 0% chance at becoming tropical again.

[hurricanefloyd5]

OTTO OTTO OTTO OTTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (SHOUTING FOR OTTO)

[Josephine96]

More storms woo hoo lol

[HURAKAN]

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html

[Hyperstorm]

Good catch!

I still will go by my original statement in that it has to cross the magical 30*N latitude in order to become tropical. Waters are just too cool where it is now...

[HURAKAN]

Good catch!

I still will go by my original statement in that it has to cross the magical 30*N latitude in order to become tropical. Waters are just too cool where it is now...

Thanks, usually during the hurricane season I try to catch non-tropical lows in the Eastern Atlantic that are moving southward. History proves that most of them make it at least to subtropical status.

The water where 97L is seated is not all that cold, right now is around 24º C and is moving toward 26º C. Also, as you can see in the image far below, there is an anormally in temeperature that favors the low pressure.

SST Analysis:


SST Anomaly: