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This is pretty cool!

#1 Postby ~SirCane » Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:11 pm

It's a loop of the extremely rare South Atlantic Hurricane hitting Brazil last March. Why is it sooooo rare for a Hurricane to form in the South Atlantic? This must have been some event.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/imag ... irloop.gif

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/imag ... visloo.gif
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#2 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:47 pm

That's so cool!!! Everything related to weather out of the ordinary is really cool!! Don't you think so?
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#3 Postby Stormsfury » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:20 pm

Damn! ... it even looked like that for a brief period, it took on an annular type look to it ...
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#4 Postby Scorpion » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:28 pm

That was a big eye!! Took up about half the hurricane there!
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#5 Postby Opal storm » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:47 pm

That's cool!If it happened once,it can happen again.Hopefully it won't,becuase I heard that those weather guys in Brazil aren't good at forecasting hurricanes.
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#6 Postby Anonymous » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:17 pm

Question.... Is it normal for South Atlantic hurricanes to turn North instead of south. I would have thought it would have turned South towards the South pole like North Atlantic Canes turn North. Hurricanes are supposed to even out the heat bringing it from the tropics toward the poles and this one did the opposite. Just wonderring :?:
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#7 Postby Matthew5 » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:21 pm

No the hurricane went west...As for it having a large eye that means it was very favable...Meaning it is more then possible that we could hvae another one with in the next 5 or so years.
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:24 pm

Jekyhe32210 wrote:Question.... Is it normal for South Atlantic hurricanes to turn North instead of south. I would have thought it would have turned South towards the South pole like North Atlantic Canes turn North. Hurricanes are supposed to even out the heat bringing it from the tropics toward the poles and this one did the opposite. Just wonderring :?:


In the North Atlantic, as you said, hurricanes are supposed to move northward. Why did Larry last year moved completely southward? That depended on the weather pattern at the moment. Not all, but most hurricanes in the Atlantic move northward, some move completely westward and southwestward like Iris in 2001. Others move eastward, and northeastward, like Lenny in 1999. Others like Lili in 1984, first moved northward and then turned southward. All depends in the weather pattern the system is in.
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#9 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:30 pm

Matthew5 wrote:No the hurricane went west...As for it having a large eye that means it was very favable...Meaning it is more then possible that we could hvae another one with in the next 5 or so years.


We have to remember that the rule says, "The South Atlantic is mostly unfavorable for tropical development since surface temperatures are cooler than needed to maintain a tropical system and weather patterns cause too much shear for tropical development to occur". Now, in every rule, there are exceptions, and "Catarina" was one of those exceptions. The formation of "Catarina" indicates that even most of the time tropical development is not possible, there are occasions that favorable weather factors conside and development occurs. "Catarina"'s formation doesn't indicate when we will see another system form in the South Atlantic. Furthermore, if Global Warming continues, maybe in the next hundred years it will be more common to see development between the African and South American Continents.
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#10 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:34 pm

For those Brazilian Meteorologists that know more about hurricanes that what we do, if this picture doesn't represent a hurricane, then we have to reconsider the term.

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#11 Postby Anonymous » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:52 pm

HURAKAN wrote:For those Brazilian Meteorologists that know more about hurricanes that what we do, if this picture doesn't represent a hurricane, then we have to reconsider the term.


LOL Does Brazill even have a Meteorological service? Do their people have access to the Internet so they may receive news from the US warning of the hurricane or did they only hear their govt saying that there was no hurricane?
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#12 Postby ~SirCane » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:00 pm

What a shot! Yeah, those Brazilians know nothing about Hurricanes. There is no doubt that Catarina was one. I read that it did a ton of damage down there too!! No one was prepared for it. Pretty amazing!!

here's more info on it.....

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec2/sec2c ... arina.html

http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder. ... 004-03.htm
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#13 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:15 pm

~SirCane wrote:What a shot! Yeah, those Brazilians know nothing about Hurricanes. There is no doubt that Catarina was one. I read that it did a ton of damage down there too!! No one was prepared for it. Pretty amazing!!

here's more info on it.....

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec2/sec2c ... arina.html

http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder. ... 004-03.htm


Pretty amazing information. Like the Cuban Meteorologists, maybe the Brazilian Meteorologists have to say what the government says. But they know as much about hurricanes as the National Hurricane Center knows to be able to forecast the eruption of Mt. St. Helens. :)
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#14 Postby ~SirCane » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:42 pm

Looks like Brazil needs its own Hurricane Center so they don't get caught off guard again! :D

Here's another great link about it...

http://www.hurricaneville.com/brazilian_hurricane.html
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#15 Postby HurricaneBill » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:54 pm

While the Brazilian government and forecasters denied it was a hurricane, I read that many Brazilian residents still felt it might be a hurricane and went to hurricane websites to see what they should do.
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#16 Postby Matthew5 » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:02 pm

No seasurface temperatures, is not a reason why tropical cyclone, don't develop over the south Atlatnic. If you look at the water temperatures every winter/summber around Feb through April down to around 30 south waters are around 76 to 82 degrees. What causes the unfavable pattern over the south Atlantic, is a large area of high pressure. That centers it selfs around the central South Atlantic. What that doe's is cause strong wind shear over any devloping area of covnection. That also makes the pressure fairly high with alot of dry air. That hurricane developed around. One of the most favable areas, if you went to call it that.
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#17 Postby ~SirCane » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:12 pm

Those Brazilian forecasters didn't know what they were talking about!! LOL.
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#18 Postby The Big Dog » Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:26 am

I can't believe the total denial by Brazil's "experts." Misplaced protectionism for their tourism industry, I guess.

Florida doesn't get hurricanes either, then. We just get "really bad stuff once in a while."
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#19 Postby chigger11 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:01 am

Are we able to get several day loops like Catarina for any named storm. How can we see Ivan or Jeanne with an extended loop like the one here? Thank you in advance.
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