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Satellite of 1935 Labor Day Hurricane...

#1 Postby Anonymous » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:40 pm

My vision:
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#2 Postby Scorpion » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:46 pm

Very nice. Its too bad we didnt have satellites, she would have been really impressive.
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#3 Postby Opal storm » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:50 pm

Very cool. :D But very scary :eek:
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#4 Postby Normandy » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:51 pm

Cloud tops arent cold enough imo.
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#5 Postby Anonymous » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:53 pm

Normandy wrote:Cloud tops arent cold enough imo.

They are around the eyewall.
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#6 Postby Normandy » Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:55 pm

Wouldn't they be black though?
Still I think there needs to be more extremely cold cloudtops. We are talking about the most intense hurricane on record (imo).
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#7 Postby Anonymous » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:11 pm

Normandy wrote:Wouldn't they be black though?
Still I think there needs to be more extremely cold cloudtops. We are talking about the most intense hurricane on record (imo).


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#8 Postby Normandy » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:34 pm

Thats what im talkin about!
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#9 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:38 pm

looks to be too big.

remember, this was only slightly larger than was cyclone tracy, smaller than both charley and andrew. Tracy's cloud shield was only about 100km in diameter, with TS winds extending out only about 25 miles from the center.
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#10 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:11 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:looks to be too big.

remember, this was only slightly larger than was cyclone tracy, smaller than both charley and andrew. Tracy's cloud shield was only about 100km in diameter, with TS winds extending out only about 25 miles from the center.



WOW that is one amazing storm. :eek:
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#11 Postby Droop12 » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:33 pm

I kind of envisioned a storm near the size of Charley, or alittle smalled. I believe that Key West never had winds of hurricane force and just barely tropical storm force winds...correct me if Im wrong. I think Charley this year was a disaster avoided in Tampa Bay. Think about it, Charley was rapidly strengthening and showed no signs of slowing down. If he would have kept on a track towards Tampa Bay, he would of had atleast 2 or 3 hours more to intensify, He could have went to near 925mb winds (160-165mph?) IMO. Then instead of running right up Charlotte Harbor, he'd run up Tampa Bay as a compact cat 5. Remember he was in an area of higher pressures, thus the pressure was kind of high for the strength of the wind produced. Not to mention the very tight pressure gradient. IMO, I believe the 1935 Labor Day hurricane may have been very similar to Charley, they just took different paths. IMHO this could have been the big one. For people of Punta Gorda it was the big one. I guess you can say Flordia has been lucky this year? Depends on how you look at it.
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#12 Postby Sanibel » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:40 am

If they are saying 190mph with this tiny storm the CDO would have to be compact and probably perfectly round. The eye would be a tight or pinpoint eye. It could have had a band coming out of it, but this was an all-business compact center. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like the hurricanne symbol with a small rotator arm coming out of each end...


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#13 Postby Anonymous » Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:26 am

Sanibel wrote:If they are saying 190mph with this tiny storm the CDO would have to be compact and probably perfectly round. The eye would be a tight or pinpoint eye. It could have had a band coming out of it, but this was an all-business compact center. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like the hurricanne symbol with a small rotator arm coming out of each end....


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#14 Postby Matthew5 » Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:52 am

I wish there was radar back then(1935)...If I remeber the first radar was around 1941 or so. Which is to bad. I would think that this hurricane was very much like cyclone Tracy. Its cdo could very well of been less the 100 miles across. With a eye maybe no more then 2 or 3 miles across. It would of had black or even white cloud tops on the Ir...The hurricane force winds may have came out 20 or so miles? Tropical storm force 50 or so miles.
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#15 Postby Sanibel » Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:23 am

That's close Floyd you're a good artist. I thought about this last night after posting and decided the hurricane probably had scattered short bands spread around it in a sweeping look with a hazy sort of compact outer banding but a deep circular center.

The radar (oops satellite) you made there is good but physically impossible. The bands would have to be slightly bigger. If we imagine a tight storm that barely has TS winds at either end of the Keys we are not looking at a big-bander, but instead a tight bugger with raggy swept short inflowing hazy scattered bands that curve about twice as much as you drew. If I had the technology I would paint it for you like you did...

Another option is one band hooking in in a short tight fashion...

Finally, we could have a mostly donut shape with wisps of bands just trailing out of it but almost in the same curve as the CDO and not getting far away from it like slivers that go along parallel to the curve instead of sticking out...
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#16 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:27 am

That is satellite. Not radar. I can make a radar though.
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#17 Postby Matthew5 » Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:28 am

I wish they would of hat radar a few years earlier.
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#18 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:03 am

BEST I CAN DO SO DON'T NITPICK:
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#19 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:04 am

Sanibel wrote:That's close Floyd you're a good artist. I thought about this last night after posting and decided the hurricane probably had scattered short bands spread around it in a sweeping look with a hazy sort of compact outer banding but a deep circular center.

The radar you made there is good but physically impossible. The bands would have to be slightly bigger. If we imagine a tight storm that barely has TS winds at either end of the Keys we are not looking at a big-bander, but instead a tight bugger with raggy swept short inflowing hazy scattered bands that curve about twice as much as you drew. If I had the technology I would paint it for you like you did...

Another option is one band hooking in in a short tight fashion...

Finally, we could have a mostly donut shape with wisps of bands just trailing out of it but almost in the same curve as the CDO and not getting far away from it like slivers that go along parallel to the curve instead of sticking out...


I have windows paint, and past storm floater loop images. I cut, paste, and draw. When done, I save as a JPG, and upload to my freewebs site. Then I post the pics here.
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#20 Postby Sanibel » Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:09 pm

Close, but you have to make the core nasty red with black tops.

I could be wrong, but I imagine it with "hairy" inflow banding like a storm that has a real barometric flow pouring into it at high speed. In this case bands would not be likely to assume sharp shapes but would be shredded themselves by this rapid gradient.

The satellite would probably be a little larger with a red core just under half the size of the storm.
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