Yassar Arafat really dead? Quite possibly..

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Yassar Arafat really dead? Quite possibly..

#1 Postby SouthernWx » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:08 am

I've found Debka to be a reliable site over the years....and they state Arafat actually died two days ago. A very interesting article...

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=932
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#2 Postby yoda » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:16 am

IMO, Arafat is still alive, but barely. Interesting article though...
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#3 Postby southerngale » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:35 am

I saw it on that site a couple of nights ago when I found the link somewhere else. It was just a Breaking News scrolling report at the time with no article. I don't know anything about Debka so I didn't say anything since all of the other news reports said he was still on life support. I figured it was a bogus report.
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#4 Postby Cookiely » Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:11 am

You can be dead as a door nail and be on life support. Arafat can't even die and be buried without causing problems.
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#5 Postby streetsoldier » Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:35 am

The very moment that Arafat's death is disclosed, be prepared for a LONG street fight between Palestinian factions...with Israel standing by and watching the PLO implode upon itself.
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#6 Postby Brent » Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:15 am

Frankly I don't care anymore. I wish they'd tell us already he's dead and get it over with. :roll:
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#7 Postby bfez1 » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:18 pm

According to Fox News he is barely alive!!!
Clinging to life on machines!
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#8 Postby Brent » Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:35 pm

I think if he's alive, it's based on machines and not on his own.
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#9 Postby Brent » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:42 pm

Arafat Said to Have Liver Failure; PM to Visit

2 hours, 23 minutes ago World - Reuters

By Wafa Amr

PARIS (Reuters) - Yasser Arafat (news - web sites), critically ill in a Paris hospital, has suffered liver failure, a Palestinian official said on Sunday as Arafat's subordinates decided in his absence to enforce a law and order plan in Palestinian areas.

Arafat's deputy, Mahmoud Abbas, and Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie will go to France on Monday to visit the president in hospital, Palestinian officials said.

Abbas and Qurie, overseeing Palestinian affairs in the West Bank and Gaza since Arafat was flown to a hospital near Paris on Oct. 29, decided to go to France so they could be "personally reassured" about his condition, one of the officials said.

With no indication who will succeed the 75-year-old Arafat, who has dominated Palestinian affairs for more than three decades, some aides said he might be moved to Egypt, from where he could be flown home more quickly if he died.

"He has liver failure. His condition is not improving," said a Palestinian official in the West Bank who declined to be named. "One option being considered is moving him to Cairo."

The official said any decision to move Arafat could be taken only by the Palestinian leadership. He added that a low count of platelets, which help the blood clot, meant blood transfusions were proving difficult.

Addressing the delicate issue of where Arafat should be buried if he dies, Israel said it had completed preparations for the Palestinian president's eventual burial in the Gaza Strip (news - web sites). But Arafat has said he wants to be laid to rest in Jerusalem.

Doctors treating Arafat have ruled out leukemia but remain puzzled why his health deteriorated sharply last week at the Paris military hospital where he has been having tests since he was flown from the West Bank on Oct. 29.

One Palestinian official said in Paris: "The organs in the lower part of Arafat's body have not been functioning well. However, his heart and brain are working still."

In Ramallah, site of Arafat's headquarters, his fellow leaders decided to carry out a plan to restore law and order in the West Bank and Gaza, a government minister said. It was the first major decision they have announced since Arafat left.

Officials said the plan was drafted in March and is more concerned with ending local lawlessness than reining in militants waging a 4-year-old uprising -- a long-standing Israeli and international demand.

Cabinet minister Saeb Erekat told Reuters the National Security Council decided to "implement a plan to restore the rule of law in the Palestinian territories."

The plan calls for more security forces to be deployed. Militants will be banned from carrying arms except when confronting Israel and stopped from intervening in local disturbances.

Arafat and other officials often promised action on the security front, with little result. Arafat said the Palestinians were hamstrung by Israel's destruction of their forces during the uprising.

Briefing Israel's cabinet on Sunday, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said there were signs that Palestinian leaders were trying to curtail violence.

"There are indications that they are trying to close ranks and stop the Hamas terrorism, but there is no way of knowing if this will succeed," he said, referring to a Palestinian militant group.

Qurie came under pressure from the armed factions on Saturday to give them decision-making powers in a temporary unified leadership they want if Arafat dies. He did not say he had agreed.

Egypt said on Sunday it was likely to host talks between Palestinian factions to draw up a council for running Palestinian affairs and the peace process with Israel. Spokesmen for two Palestinian factions could not confirm such a meeting.

Arafat wants to be buried in Jerusalem's Old City, which is holy both to Muslims and Jews, but Israeli officials refuse to let him lie in land Israel calls part of its indivisible capital and which it annexed after the 1967 Middle East war.

Israel wants him buried in the Gaza Strip.

"The defense establishment has completed preparations for an Arafat funeral in Gaza," political sources quoted Mofaz as telling Sunday's cabinet meeting.

"The moment we receive a Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) request on the matter, we will implement final preparations. We still await a formal announcement of Arafat's death."

Israel allowed the Palestinian leader to be flown from the West Bank to France and returning him to Gaza would require similar permission.

Mohammad Dahlan, Arafat's former security chief in Gaza and a close aide, left Paris for the Middle East on Sunday to confer with Palestinian leaders. Arafat's wife Suha sent a verbal message with him on coordinating with them on Arafat's possible movements and burial should he die, a Palestinian official said.
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#10 Postby BEER980 » Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:58 pm

One of my sources is also reporting he is dead and they are holding off for 36 hours before announcing it. So it looks like 3 different sources reporting now.
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